Well, both [array] and [text] have the “-k” flag, for “keeping” text, which 
writes down the data stored in them inside the pd patch. This is in their help 
files. It is the same as the “save contents” Roman mentioned.

> On Oct 1, 2017, at 2:25 PM, richard millig @ selma 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> sometimes the values stay
> in the array, sometimes not

The “sometimes” here will depend on the -k flag. If you are still loosing info 
with the -k flag, then i guess it depends on how you quit the patch: if you 
didn’t hit save the data probably didn't get saved. If you did hit save, then 
perhaps this might be a bug.

(With the -k flag you can even cut and paste [text define] and [array define], 
so you can move the objects freely without loosing any data.)

Also, as Christof pointed out, writing/reading to text file works on both 
[array] and [text] objects, as well as “data structures”, which would be yet 
another way to handle preset info (and much more). There is a tutorial if you 
go to the pd-browser (help>browser) and look for pure data/data structures

Cheers!!

fd
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