This is news to me. I thought deken was now the way to install gem regardless 
of platform. I see a LOT of new users attempting this and struggling. I also 
know that people coming from extended are being told they should use deken. Gem 
is often one of the first things extended users try to install via deken. I 
imagine this could be at the root of a lot of people just going straight back 
to extended.

I agree that it really should be removed from deken repos asap if that isn't a 
good way to get it running.


> On Sep 28, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Max <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On 2017년 09월 28일 19:36, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
>>> On 09/28/2017 06:33 PM, Max wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, in theory the gem on deken could be a different (newer) version
>>> then the one coming through the package management, especially if you
>>> are on a release based distribution like ubuntu, mint, etc.
>> so?
>> as the maintainer of Gem i'm pretty well aware of it's dependency chain
>> and as a co-developer of deken i firmly believe that it is not up to
>> handling such things.
> 
> understood.
> 
> that only is true for gem on linux though, because there is no system package 
> management on win/osx.
> Maybe it would be a good idea to make a message appear:
> "Please install Gem via the package manager (apt,yum, etc)" if people search 
> for Gem in deken. So that poor linux beginners don't get too frustrated when 
> they follow some random tutorial by an apple/ms user how to install Pd/Gem.
> 
> my 0.5ct
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