Le 16/10/2017 à 13:49, enrike a écrit :

I am doing *very* short introductions to PD to art students who are very far 
from being technical. In that context I noticed that the less connections the 
better. I basically provide them with ready to use examples and a basic 
understanding of how to tweak them.


I don't blame anyone having trouble to creating box and connecting them, but I 
think pd is not the right tools for someone in this situation.
there are lot's of tools and programming language available...

My point of view is that pd is not simple. You should not lie to your student 
saying it's simple. They will drop pd when they realize the truth. Teaching the 
vanilla way is, imo, the best way to teach pd.

In your situation, i'll made everything as subpatch, and sub sub patch:
if you look at the surface, you see only the algorithm and few connections. If 
you go deeper, you can understand how things are made, and how 2 or 3 object 
can create a counter.

Also, since all student will have different version of pd installed on there 
computer, the vanilla way it the only one that will work for all.
And learning to make clean and well organized code is also very important : 
it's easier to debug, to understand etc.

cheers
c



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