Hi Marco, I just wanna point out that I haven't got issues with Pd, no problem at all. I can easily work with Sysex in various way and of course also the way you described. mine was more a let's call it curiosity. also because I think that the possibility to directly send a list to [midiout], and let Pd deal with parsing, would be a faster process.
cheers, Mario 2018-02-22 22:40 GMT+00:00 mario buoninfante <mario.buoninfa...@gmail.com>: > yap I'm sending sysex from Circuit. I'm using Components a Novation > website that allows you to store patches and session from Circuit. and the > way that Circuit sends these info is why sysex. so I'm just dumping data > and monitoring. > > On 02/22/2018 10:37 PM, Alex wrote: > > Oh okay, I get it. > I'm not sure. Are you sending SYSEX from your Circuit as well? > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:31 PM, mario buoninfante < > mario.buoninfa...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> yap, this makes sense. I imagined Gmidimonitor does that. but why is not >> parsing midi from Pd? >> >> sorry, maybe I'm just missing the point, but I'm really trying to get my >> head around with that ;) >> >> >> cheers >> >> >> >> On 02/22/2018 10:29 PM, Christof Ressi wrote: >> >>> don't confuse MIDI messages with the individual bytes which make up the >>> message. Gmidimonitor parses the byte stream so it can tell you which >>> messages it gets. [midiout] is only responsible for sending raw *bytes* to >>> a MIDI device. it's your job to assemble your MIDI *messages*. >>> >>> >>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Februar 2018 um 23:05 Uhr >>> Von: "mario buoninfante" <mario.buoninfa...@gmail.com> >>> An: Alex <x37v.a...@gmail.com> >>> Cc: email@example.com >>> Betreff: Re: [PD] sysex messages >>> >>> yap, I know that at the end of the day MIDI is dealing with 1 byte at >>> time. I was wondering why there's a difference between 2 different piece of >>> code that generates MIDI (Pd and Hardware synth). >>> for example I just monitored (via USB) my Novation Circuit (a groovebox) >>> and Gmidimonitor receives messages 81 bytes long. with Pd as I said is >>> always 1 byte. >>> now my question would be, how is this possible? >>> I'm sure Circuit sends sysex 81 bytes long, so I know that this is >>> correct, but still I don't know why Pd doesn't allow something like that. >>> cheers, >>> Mario >>> On 02/22/2018 09:58 PM, Alex wrote: >>> >>> MIDI is a serial protocol, individual bits running down a single line, >>> we now also have USB midi which is a little bit different than that but >>> usually that is abstracted for you.The software monitor you're using likely >>> groups these for you but in reality you simply have a stream of individual >>> bits on the hardware line.. >>> PD's object let you do bytes at a time instead of individual bits :) >>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 1:47 PM, mario buoninfante < >>> mario.buoninfa...@gmail.com[mailto:mario.buoninfa...@gmail.com]> wrote: >>> Hi Alex, >>> thanks for your reply. I think that also using your abstraction Pd >>> will spit out 1 byte per time (I didn't check it, but I assume that cause >>> it's not an external in C). >>> about MIDI if I'm not wrong, bytes are grouped in accord with the type >>> of message, ie Note on/off and CC are 3 bytes messages, channel pressure >>> and program change are 2 bytes, sysex have variable length and so on. and I >>> presume they're sent out in group. >>> in fact when I monitor MIDI messages coming for certain applications >>> (I'm on Linux and I'm using Gmidimonitor) the console tells me the sysex >>> size in bytes. so, with Pd the size is always 1 byte, but with other >>> programming languages and softwares is variable and goes in accord with the >>> sysex I generated. >>> cheers, >>> Mario >>> >>> >>> On 02/22/2018 09:34 PM, Alex wrote: >>> >>> I haven't tested in a while but I wrote an abstraction to take a list, >>> wrap it in the sysex start and end and output it as individual bytes: >>> https://github.com/x37v/pure_data[https://github.com/x37v/pure_data] >>> midi is a byte oriented protocol.. >>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 1:24 PM, mario buoninfante < >>> mario.buoninfa...@gmail.com[mailto:mario.buoninfa...@gmail.com]> >>> wrote:Hi, >>> >>> >>> do you guys know if there's a way to send a list of sysex messages (or 1 >>> complete message, let's say 8 bytes long) rather then 1 byte per time? >>> >>> if not, do you know if there's a particular reason why it's not possible? >>> >>> >>> cheers, >>> >>> Mario >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pdfirstname.lastname@example.org[mailto:Pdemail@example.com] mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/li >>> stinfo/pd-list[https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list] >>> _______________________________________________ Pdfirstname.lastname@example.org >>> mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list[https://lists.p >>> uredata.info/listinfo/pd-list] >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pdemail@example.com mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/li >> stinfo/pd-list >> > > >
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