Yeah, I've been still trying around and now I'm pretty sure this is
where you set the type, and I'm also now assuming there's no way to
carry both signals and control data in the same input as it is. This
seems to require changes to the core of Pd elsewhere, right?


i don't think so ...

[writesf~], [tabwrite~], [snapshot~] etc.

all of them vanilla objects, all take signal AND message inputs



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