On 16/03/18 00:30, Derek Kwan wrote:
Derek Kwan<[email protected]>  writes:

oliver<[email protected]>  writes:

even if "uniform rendering across systems" is definitely a worthy goal,
are the bigger inlets really unavoidable ?

no chance to at least hack a personal version of a tcl file to make
them thin again ?

i for one like the slimmer inlets waaaaay better.
I suppose I'm in the minority in the proceedings of this
thread,... but I actually like the thick inlets/outlets =) I've never
had the best eyesight (as evidenced by my ever-growing thickness of
glasses lenses over my lifetime) so I like things big and
high-contrasty (if anything, I could use another pixel-width thickness =P).
I actually agree with you, so not sure what percentage of the Pd Vanilla population that makes us :)
I suppose to due my differing opinion, I would +1 the option to change
inlet/outlet thicknesses, perhaps via TCL or .pdsettings.

I think that as much as I have always thought Pd's (vanilla) spartan graphics are a feature which lets you concentrate on the dataflow an forces you to tidy up at a certain point (plus gets you creative with certain situations), *some* visual features should be (easily) configurable including:
- font type
- base font size (although there is a problem with other people's patches there..))
- background and foreground colour
- inlet/outlet thickness
- signal vs message inlet/outlet colour
- ...

Ideally one day in the future the graphical part of Pd patches will be like an SVG (vector graphics)... Imagine patching in something like Inkscape and having a potentially "infinite" size canvas.... (But then maybe I wonder if that would lead to messier patches) :D

...
The following have the original THINNER inlets/outlets (perhaps due to
them being more "fullblown GUI elements")
:
number2 boxes
radios
sliders
bangs
toggles
VU meters
To sum up, everything in the first subdivision of the "Put" menu
(besides comments which don't have inlets/outlets) have the thicker
inlets/outlets, everything in the second subdivision has the smaller
ones. Which is a bit inconsistent. Personally, I have a really hard time
seeing those inlets/outlets in that second list, but from this thread,
there are differing opinions to be had on the subject.
I can confirm this on Linux. One nice recent feature is the 'zoom' functionality, which makes everything much more readable especially on higher resolution screens. :)

Lorenzo.


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