> I'd still like to be able to use clone to dynamically load 
> abstractions/subpatches in the future, so I don't think you'd want to default 
> to creating a sub patch then.

where do you see the conflict? I like the idea of dynamically loading 
abstractions but you would still need to provide an initial abstraction (even 
if it's just a dummy) to tell [clone] which inlets/outlets you want. generally, 
you can't load abstractions with differing inlets/outlets because that would 
mess up the connections.

dynamically loading abstractions is trivial to implement. loading subpatches 
could work in the sense that the content of a given subpatch simply gets copied 
into the canvas owned by [clone]. the tricky part is how to automatically 
reflect changes in the original subpatch. I can see how it could work but I 
don't know if it's worth the hassle... in the worst case, the user has to 
manually reload the subpatch.

Christof

> Gesendet: Sonntag, 17. Juni 2018 um 15:27 Uhr
> Von: "Dan Wilcox" <[email protected]>
> An: "Christof Ressi" <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [PD] [feature request] cloning array define?
>
> I'd still like to be able to use clone to dynamically load 
> abstractions/subpatches in the future, so I don't think you'd want to default 
> to creating a sub patch then.
> 
> enohp ym morf tnes
> -----------
> Dan Wilcox
> danomatika.com
> robotcowboy.com
> 
> 
> > On Jun 17, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Christof Ressi <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > I already have a PR with a couple of improvements/bug fixes for [clone] 
> > (https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/310) and this is something I 
> > definitely want to add!
> > since the clone object owns the canvases, I don't think it would be 
> > possible take an existing subpatch, instead clone could give you an empty 
> > canvas if you don't provide an abstraction name and you could edit it just 
> > like an subpatch. In July I have some time to tinker around.
> >  
> > 
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 17. Juni 2018 um 00:01 Uhr
> > Von: "Dan Wilcox" <[email protected]>
> > An: [email protected]
> > Betreff: Re: [PD] [feature request] cloning array define?
> > 
> > Doh, "subpath" = subpatCh ... as in [pd foo] -> [clone 16 pd-foo] some 
> > how...
> >  
> > On Jun 16, 2018, at 11:54 PM, Dan Wilcox 
> > <[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]> wrote: 
> > 
> > What would be *more useful* would being able to clone a subpath, then I 
> > wouldn't need to have a bunch of single-object instantion wrappers around...
> >  
> > On 06/15/2018 11:07 AM, Jaime Oliver La Rosa wrote:Hello all,
> > 
> > Here is a somewhat half-baked feature request.
> > 
> > It would be great to be able to clone objects such as array.
> > like the attached abstraction?
> > 
> > use as:
> > [clone arraydefine 16 foo-]
> >  
> > Would this be possible?
> >  
> > i don't really see the point of adding syntactic sugar that can be
> > trivially implemented with a single-object abstraction wrapper. 
> > 
> > --------
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> >   
> > 
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> > @danomatika[http://twitter.com/danomatika]
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