D'oh.. well, as i said, the floating iolet never bothered me after all :-) > Gesendet: Samstag, 08. September 2018 um 00:13 Uhr > Von: "Antoine Rousseau" <[email protected]> > An: "Christof Ressi" <[email protected]> > Cc: Pd-list <[email protected]> > Betreff: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PD] Slider/Knob > > too bad, newclick(...) is never called when in edit mode... > so: no hovering detection when in edit mode, no way to (easily) detect edit > mode on/off switching... back to the starting point. > maybe i will... do nothing more ;-) > > Antoine Rousseau > http://www.metalu.net <http://metalu.net> __ > http://www.metaluachahuter.com/ > <http://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/> > > > > Le ven. 7 sept. 2018 à 20:33, Christof Ressi <[email protected]> a > écrit : > > > cool! > > > > > why not even showing outline and iolets as soon as the patch is switched > > to edit mode? > > > > the only type of object inside the canvas which gets notified on editmode > > changes is T_TEXT (to toggle the vertical line on the right), so AFAICT > > it's impossible to achieve without nasty tricks (see iemguts/receivecanvas > > :-)) > > > > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 07. September 2018 um 19:39 Uhr > > Von: "Antoine Rousseau" <[email protected]> > > An: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > Cc: "Christof Ressi" <[email protected]>, Pd-list < > > [email protected]> > > Betreff: Re: Re: Re: [PD] Slider/Knob > > > > OK I just tried and mknob_newclick allows receiving hovering as you said > > before. > > > > > > Antoine Rousseau > > http://www.metalu.net[http://metalu.net] __ > > http://www.metaluachahuter.com/[http://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/] > > > > > > Le ven. 7 sept. 2018 à 19:32, Antoine Rousseau <[email protected][mailto: > > [email protected]]> a écrit : > > > > I see; why not even showing outline and iolets as soon as the patch is > > switched to edit mode? > > But I must admit I don't know how to detect these events (object is > > hovered /or/ patch switches to /from edit mode). I'll try to find existing > > similar code, but maybe you have some pointers? > > > > > > Antoine Rousseau > > http://www.metalu.net[http://metalu.net] __ > > http://www.metaluachahuter.com/[http://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/] > > > > > > Le ven. 7 sept. 2018 à 19:20, Christof Ressi <[email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]]> a écrit :> you mean like the little > > square of the canvas object? > > > > kind of, except that my_canvas only shows the square when the object is > > selected. of course that's also possible! my idea was to show it when you > > hover the object in editmode, so you don't have to explicitly select the > > object to see where to make the connections. > > > > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 07. September 2018 um 18:43 Uhr > > Von: "Antoine Rousseau" <[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]> > > An: "Christof Ressi" <[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]> > > Cc: Pd-list <[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]> > > Betreff: Re: Re: [PD] Slider/Knob > > > > a visual hint (i.e. draw the rect borders and the iolets)- but only when > > the user hovers over the knob while the glist is in editmode > > > > you mean like the little square of the canvas object? yes, I like the > > idea. I'll try this soon, thanks! > > > > > > Antoine Rousseau > > http://www.metalu.net[http://www.metalu.net][http://metalu.net[ > > http://metalu.net]] __ > > http://www.metaluachahuter.com/[http://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/][http://www.metaluachahuter.com/%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/%5D] > > <http://www.metaluachahuter.com/%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/%5D%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/%5D%5D> > > > > > > Le ven. 7 sept. 2018 à 17:31, Christof Ressi <[email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]][mailto:[email protected][mailto: > > [email protected]]]> a écrit :Hi, to be honest, I never found it to > > be a big problem. I'm not too sure about the three outlet solution, I think > > it's indeed a bit far-stretched :-) what I would suggest is to give the > > user a visual hint (i.e. draw the rect borders and the iolets)- but only > > when the user hovers over the knob while the glist is in editmode. you can > > do this in mknob_newclick. > > > > > iolets are floating in an empty space near the knob; > > > > yes, this looks a bit funny, but you usually won't have the cables visible > > in your final GUI anyway, so I wouldn't worry about that. > > > > Christof > > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 07. September 2018 um 14:45 Uhr > > Von: "Antoine Rousseau" <[email protected][mailto:[email protected] > > ][mailto:[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]]> > > An: "Christof Ressi" <[email protected][mailto:[email protected] > > ][mailto:[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]]> > > Cc: Pd-list <[email protected][mailto:[email protected]][mailto: > > [email protected][mailto:[email protected]]]> > > Betreff: Re: [PD] Slider/Knob > > > > Thanks for recommending mknob ;-) > > > > I'd like to do an update of moonlib soon, as it has received some > > improvements: sfread2~ understands a new [index( message (thx to Antoine > > Villeret), and mknob now better supports zooming. > > > > > > About the latter, I'd like to hear your opinion (you all mknob users...) > > about the following problem (and the solution I propose): > > > > mknob poses a particular problem: because its circular shape doesn't > > comply to Pd graphical paradigm (every other objects are rectangular > > shaped), iolets are floating in an empty space near the knob; because it's > > visually ugly, and I don't want to surround the knob with a rectangular > > box, I chose not to draw the iolets, even when the mknob is not bounded to > > receive/send symbols. The problem (for explicitly connected knobs) is now > > that it's somewhat tricky to guess where you have to draw the connection > > to/from, and that the wire connects to/from nowhere. This is acceptable for > > small knob, but when it becomes bigger it's really weird. > > > > So the only idea I see (apart from hacking Pd sources...) is to setup 3 > > inlets and 3 outlets, so that you can connect from/to the one in the > > middle; the wire is then actually connected to the circle. I succeeded to > > code this behaviour, keeping to possibility to use any inlet and sending to > > the three outlets. It's maybe a little far-fetched, but its works. What do > > you think of it? > > > > > > > > Antoine Rousseau > > http://www.metalu.net[http://www.metalu.net][http://www.metalu.net[ > > http://www.metalu.net]][http://metalu.net[http://metalu.net][ > > http://metalu.net[http://metalu.net]]] __ > > http://www.metaluachahuter.com/[http://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/][http://www.metaluachahuter.com/%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/%5D][http://www.metaluachahuter.com/%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/%5D%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/%5D%5D] > > <http://www.metaluachahuter.com/%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/%5D%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/%5D%5D%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/%5D%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/%5Bhttp://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/%5D%5D%5D> > > > > > > Le ven. 7 sept. 2018 à 13:05, Christof Ressi <[email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]][mailto:[email protected][mailto: > > [email protected]]][mailto:[email protected][mailto: > > [email protected]][mailto:[email protected][mailto: > > [email protected]]]]> a écrit :I recommend mknob from moonlib, but > > make sure you get the latest version from deken for pd >= 0.47 > > > > Christof > > > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 07. 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