Yes, definitely in the category of “annoying” and not “critical”. I haven’t 
done any Tcl programming, but I’ll take a look, for what it’s worth. Relevant 
code?

I find that sometimes resizing doesn’t even make the bars go away. Also 
something that interacts: the offsets for a  GOP window. I’ve had a long habit 
of setting them to zero so that the window is in the upper left corner of the 
subpatch. *Sometimes* making those offsets at least 4 makes the scroll bars 
disappear in the subpatch (assuming the other edges of the patch window are out 
far enough). Sometimes not, though. I can’t figure out any consistent behavior.

From: Dan Wilcox <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 12:47 PM
To: Philip Stone <[email protected]>
Cc: Pd-List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PD] patch scroll bars

Yes, it's annoying. No, it's not been easy to figure out what's going on. Feel 
free to play with the Tcl and help fix it.

Easiest thing to do for now is to resize the window and the bars go away. Also, 
works to have a little bit of space padding out the sides.


On May 2, 2019, at 7:39 PM, 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

From: Philip Stone <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [PD] patch scroll bars
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In the last few versions of Pd (on OS X at least -- I can’t speak for the other 
platforms), the behavior of patch window scrollbars seems somewhat confusing. 
It used to be easy to size a patch window so that there would be no scrollbars, 
but now I can’t figure out what the trick is to do that. Sometimes the 
scrollbars appear, sometimes they don’t. Resizing the patch window sometimes 
makes them disappear, only to have them re-appear on the next time the patch is 
opened.

Has anybody else noticed this?

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Dan Wilcox
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