> from what I understand portmidi uses a lockfree ringbuffer so sending a lot 
> of MIDI messages shouldn't block Pd.

I was wrong, the lockfree ringbuffer is only used for *receiving* MIDI 
messages. looking at pmwinmm.c, sending MIDI messages certainly involves 
blocking operations. I think the midi_outqueue should be read by a seperate 
worker thread.

Christof

> Gesendet: Samstag, 04. Mai 2019 um 00:23 Uhr
> Von: "Christof Ressi" <[email protected]>
> An: "Dan Wilcox" <[email protected]>
> Cc: Pd-List <[email protected]>
> Betreff: Re: [PD] pd-lork and midi on osX
>
> thanks! FWIW, I also get the blocking behavior on Pd 0.46 - 0.49 (Windows) 
> and also on Pd extended, so at least on Windows this has always been a 
> problem. Cyrill only said that it worked on Pd extended but he didn't say 
> anything about older Pd vanilla releases. You've done some macOS specific 
> changes in portmidi/portmidi/pm_mac/pmmacosxcm.c but afaict it's only about 
> *receiving* MIDI messages. So actually I don't think that you've introduced a 
> regression here.
> 
> note that when I turn on Cyrill's test patch, audio output is completely 
> blocked and the GUI lags. from what I understand portmidi uses a lockfree 
> ringbuffer so sending a lot of MIDI messages shouldn't block Pd. the patch 
> itself doesn't show a significant CPU increase, it's just blocking 
> unnecessarily.
> 
> since it seems to affect both Windows and macOS but not Linux (as Cyrill has 
> noted, I didn't check), we should probably look at the portmidi part.
> 
> Christof
> 
> Gesendet: Freitag, 03. Mai 2019 um 23:31 Uhr
> Von: "Dan Wilcox" <[email protected]>
> An: "Christof Ressi" <[email protected]>
> Cc: Pd-List <[email protected]>
> Betreff: Re: [PD] pd-lork and midi on osX
> 
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/214
>  
> 
> On May 3, 2019, at 11:29 PM, Christof Ressi 
> <[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]> wrote: 
> 
> hey, can you point me to your changes?
>   
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