the help says: "-verbose -- extra printout on startup and when searching for files"
The only caveat is that the user has to turn on log level 4 in the GUI to actually *see* the printout in the Pd console. Maybe loglevel 4 could be renamed from "all" to "verbose"? Don't know if that would help... On the other hand, -verbose could be enabled by default for -gui + *no* -stderr since it is filtered by the GUI anyway... Christof > Gesendet: Montag, 07. Oktober 2019 um 13:32 Uhr > Von: "Peter P." <[email protected]> > An: [email protected] > Betreff: Re: [PD] difference between log level and -verbose flag? > > Thanks for your attempt to clarify Christof. I must say that I have a > hard time understanding it nevertheless so I ask myself how beginners to > Pd are expected to understand/use it. > > * Christof Ressi <[email protected]> [2019-10-07 13:19]: > > Hey, > > > > > is there a specific reason the log level in Pd's console and the > > > -verbose flag do different things? > > > > I think the idea of -verbose is to "enable" posting messages at log level > > 4. "verbose(1, ...)" only sends to the GUI if "sys_verbose" is true. Note > > that the log level passed to the "verbose" function starts at -3 instead of > > 0 (don't ask me why...), so "verbose(1, ...)" actually results in log level > > 4. > > > > I think this is meant as an optimization to avoid spamming the GUI process > > with super verbose output. The thing is that code like "if (sys_verbose) > > post(...)" should really be replaced with "verbose(1, ...)". > > > > BTW, I could imagine adding a new "-loglevel" flag which mirrors the GUI's > > log levels and filters the console output accordingly when running Pd with > > -nogui or -stderr. > > > > Christof > > > > > Gesendet: Montag, 07. Oktober 2019 um 12:16 Uhr > > > Von: "Peter P." <[email protected]> > > > An: pd-list <[email protected]> > > > Betreff: [PD] difference between log level and -verbose flag? > > > > > > Hi dear list, > > > > > > is there a specific reason the log level in Pd's console and the > > > -verbose flag do different things? > > > > > > The former does not print these valuable error messages about > > > abstractions or externals not being loaded. > > > > > > Wouldn't it be great if these two functions could be combined for > > > simpler understanding? > > > > > > thanks for all ideas! > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > [email protected] mailing list > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > [email protected] mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
