> when you suggest to spread the op across several dsp ticks you mean  for example not to read the buffer in one go but to break the read to chunks?

Yes.

> also, is there a way to "defer low" different tasks in pd?

Not yet, but I've proposed adding such functionality to Pd's API, so it can be used by Pd itself (e.g. for [soundfiler] and also by externals. I already made a working async task queue (for one of my externals), I basically just have to port it from C++ to C and make a PR, but I didn't have time yet :-(

Christof

On 10.02.2020 13:04, iftah gabbai wrote:
thanks Christof, unfortunately increasing the delay is not an option for me, when you suggest to spread the op across several dsp ticks you mean  for example not to read the buffer in one go but to break the read to chunks?
also, is there a way to "defer low" different tasks in pd?

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 12:53 PM Christof Ressi <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    > when i setmem /dumpmem on a 5760000 samples size buffer

    Are you trying to do this in a single DSP tick? This would create
    a CPU spike and lead to audio dropouts, depending on the value of
    "delay" in the audio settings.

    You can either

    a) increase "delay" -> more latency -> more chance to "absorb" CPU
    spikes, or

    b) spread the operation across several DSP ticks.

    Christof

    On 10.02.2020 12:38, iftah gabbai wrote:
    so i tested it with linux and it works great, my only problem
    right now is that i get an audible glitch when i setmem /dumpmem
    on a 5760000 samples size buffer, i tried breaking the setting /
    dumping to smaller chunks but it only got worse, is there any
    workaround?

    thanks!

    On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 11:44 AM cyrille henry <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        yes, I did write that. But Miller implemented a binary
        transfer from pd to pd~ so the native solution must be lot's
        more efficient now. I did not test if shmem is still faster.

        Yes, using shmem_send~ and shmem_receive~ will add 1 more
        block latency on top of pd~ latency.

        cheers


        Le 01/02/2020 à 10:32, iftah gabbai a écrit :
        > @cyrille, i have another question if i may, i saw somewhere
        in the list that you write that streaming audio from pd to a
        subprocess with shmem is much more efficient in terms of cpu
        usage, is it still the case? also if i understand correctly
        from the docs i will then have latency of one block size +
        fifo right?
        >
        > On Sat 1. Feb 2020 at 10:29, iftah gabbai
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
        >
        >     @chris, thank you for that, very good piece of info!
        >
        >     On Fri 31. Jan 2020 at 20:03, cyrille henry
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
        >
        >
        >
        >         Le 31/01/2020 à 18:30, iftah gabbai a écrit :
        >          > so it is confirmed to work on linux? if so than
        great :)
        >         it's working on my computer!
        >         c
        >
        >
        >          >
        >          > On Fri 31. Jan 2020 at 13:58, cyrille henry
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote:
        >          >
        >          >     I don't know why it fail on mac. You can try
        to split in smaller table, like you suggested.
        >          >     But you should also test it on linux first
        since it's your main target.
        >          >
        >          >     c
        >          >
        >          >     Le 30/01/2020 à 19:55, iftah gabbai a écrit :
        >          >      > im building on mac os 10.12 and intending
        to run on linux(arm), i haven’t tested on linux, the problems
        im having are on mac,
        >          >      >
        >          >      > thanks!
        >          >      >
        >          >      > On Thu 30. Jan 2020 at 17:47, cyrille
        henry <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>> wrote:
        >          >      >
        >          >      >     what is your OS?
        >          >      >
        >          >      >     Le 30/01/2020 à 17:10, iftah gabbai a
        écrit :
        >          >      >      > hey C, i have 16gb of ram, and if
        i did not completely messed up my calcs i tried to allocate 2
        min of 96khz (11.520.000)
        >          >      >      >
        >          >      >      > thanks again!
        >          >      >      >
        >          >      >      > On Thu 30. Jan 2020 at 17:06,
        cyrille henry <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>>> wrote:
        >          >      >      >
        >          >      >      >     hello,
        >          >      >      >
        >          >      >      >     Do you have enough free memory
        on your computer?
        >          >      >      >     I just test on y computer, I
        can reproduce this error as soon as I ask an allocation
        bigger than the available memory on my hardware.
        >          >      >      >     (between 500 000 000 and 1 000
        000 000 points)
        >          >      >      >
        >          >      >      >     cheers
        >          >      >      >     Cyrille
        >          >      >      >
        >          >      >      >     Le 30/01/2020 à 12:11, iftah
        gabbai a écrit :
        >          >      >      >      > ...perhaps i should
        elaborate, im trying to dump an array in the size of 11 520
        000(2 min of 96 khz audio) to another instance of PD, is it
        possible at all or do i have to break it to smaller chunks?
        >          >      >      >      >
        >          >      >      >      > On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at
        12:01 PM iftah gabbai <[email protected]
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        <mailto:[email protected]>>>> <mailto:[email protected]
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        <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
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        <mailto:[email protected]>> <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>>> <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>> <mailto:[email protected]
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        <mailto:[email protected]>> <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>>>>>> wrote:
        >          >      >      >      >
        >          >      >      >      >  hello all, ive been
        experimenting with shmem (the latest one i could find in
        deken), it works fine as long as i use very small arrays, as
        soon as i try to use bigger arrays ( havent checked where the
        breakpoint is but more than approx 400000) it doesnt and it
        returns "could not allocate shmem memory Id"
        >          >      >      >      >
        >          >      >      >      >     i wonder if im doing
        something wrong or if its a known thing?
        >          >      >      >      >
        >          >      >      >      >
        >          >      >      >      >  thanks!
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