Do *not* install Pd to a system path unless you are using a newer version of 
Tcl/Tk as the included 8.5.9 is quite broken: blank windows, etc. As noted in 
INSTALL.txt:

https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/INSTALL.txt#L268 
<https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/INSTALL.txt#L268>

I know this is tempting, especially for those coming from Linux, but there are 
a number of issues with using Pd on macOS like this, including application 
defaults keys not working as launching a Tk script for the command line will 
not connect it to app bundle plist settings which are included within a Pd 
.app, etc. If you want to invoke Pd on the command line, I recommend using a 
shell alias as documented in INSTALL.txt as well.

The safest bet is to build a Pd .app using "make app" although I'm not sure if 
the included pre-build Tcl/Tk Wish .app is up to date with Miller's releases 
yet:

    make
    make app

This results in a Pd-0.51-4.app in the main Pd source tree. I'd recommend 
right-clicking and renaming it to "Pd-0.51-4-double.app" if you have multiple 
versions on the same machine.

Also, the deprecation warning is from the system (macOS) and not from Pd. It 
basically means that Apple will remove the included Tcl/Tk from macOS in the 
future. Note: It is still shipped with macOS 11 but is unfortunately the broken 
8.5.9 version.

> On Jan 11, 2021, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 17:18:24 +0100
> From: Dario Sanfilippo <sanfilippo.da...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:sanfilippo.da...@gmail.com>>
> To: Christof Ressi <i...@christofressi.com <mailto:i...@christofressi.com>>
> Cc: Pd-List <pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>>
> Subject: Re: [PD] Pd and sounds are running but windows are blank
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> <mailto:calwgshi27mchrfcxsts06bwh4k1jpave_+clwdxf5d8lohv...@mail.gmail.com>>
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> My apologies, Christof, I forgot. :-)
> 
> That's right, I'm on 10.15.7. My Tclsh version is 8.5.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dario
> 
> On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 at 16:26, Christof Ressi <i...@christofressi.com 
> <mailto:i...@christofressi.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> it always helps to mention the OS ;-) I assume you're on macOS?
>> 
>> Christof
>> On 10.01.2021 15:27, Dario Sanfilippo wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, list.
>> 
>> I'm giving a try to Pd double precision; I installed .51-4 using the
>> autotools.
>> 
>> My patch is running and producing signals, although all windows are blank.
>> If I right-click, I can open the abstractions, blank again. I see a
>> deprecation warning about Tk, any clue what the issue could be?
>> 
>> Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> --
>> Dr Dario Sanfilippo
>> http://dariosanfilippo.com <http://dariosanfilippo.com/>
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