can you post an example of a parsed content?
Thanks all for the pointers. Now it is on mer to check the other tutorials > and find a way around. Our object does parse json in and out to file and > std if needs be, the only idea here is a batch interface with Pd so users > can input and retrieve en masse to our dataset world (with mlp and umap and > other fun ML goodies - all working so soon on a repo near you if I can > crack that last interface problem :) > > > On 8 Sep 2021, at 08:26, João Pais <jmmmp...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > is jmmmp/cellblock a model of what you could use? but adapted to lists > and maybe not so complex? > > > > I tried opening your first example in [text]. As I thought, the issue is > that commas are already reserved in pd for line changes. The output is this > (I added a line number at the start of each line) when using carriage > returns: > > > > print: 0 { > > print: 1 "cols" : 3 > > print: 2 > > print: 3 "data" : { > > print: 4 "entry-0" : [ -0.06755 > > print: 5 0.44185 > > print: 6 -0.33835 ] > > print: 7 > > print: 8 "entry-1" : [ -0.12305 > > print: 9 -0.24085 > > print: 10 0.31295 ] > > print: 11 > > print: 12 "entry-2" : [ -0.0595 > > print: 13 -0.2881 > > print: 14 0.0597 ] > > print: 15 } > > print: 16 > > print: 17 } > > print: 18 > > > > Or this without them: > > > > print: 0 { "cols" : 3 > > print: 1 "data" : { "entry-0" : [ -0.06755 > > print: 2 0.44185 > > print: 3 -0.33835 ] > > print: 4 "entry-1" : [ -0.12305 > > print: 5 -0.24085 > > print: 6 0.31295 ] > > print: 7 "entry-2" : [ -0.0595 > > print: 8 -0.2881 > > print: 9 0.0597 ] } } > > print: 10 > > > > which makes it a bit hard to read json files without some hacking, as > all those commas create a new line. Unless there is another method, is it > better to code your own json interpreter? > > > > One advantage of [text] is that it can be used to declare data > structures directly - examples might be in my tutorial, I'm not sure > anymore how far I got with it. > > > > Files are attached. > > > > Joao > > > >> Thanks for the quick reply! > >> > >> 2 use-cases. > >> > >> 1- we can generate or retrieve a dataset's content to use natively in > the creative coding environment (Max Pd Sc) so that it integrates in other > workflows of data mangling and drawing. We already have in our dataset > object file support and single point entry and query but this allow batch > dump and load. The structure is: > >> > >> { > >> "cols" : 3, > >> "data" : { > >> "entry-0" : [ -0.06755, 0.44185, -0.33835 ], > >> "entry-1" : [ -0.12305, -0.24085, 0.31295 ], > >> "entry-2" : [ -0.0595, -0.2881, 0.0597 ] > >> } > >> > >> } > >> > >> > >> 2- we can retrieve or set the state of a complex objects. Our object > will spit out its internal status ( for instance, a neural net) and we can > use the values of its parameters, like below. More interestingly, we can > also query its structure and use that information too. > >> > >> { > >> "layers" : [ { > >> "activation" : 3, > >> "biases" : [ -3.076234734727154, 0.772760846709679 > ], > >> "cols" : 2, > >> "rows" : 1, > >> "weights" : [ [ 6.015551733036155, > -1.826803841455323 ] ] > >> } > >> , { > >> "activation" : 3, > >> "biases" : [ -0.490600074475542 ], > >> "cols" : 1, > >> "rows" : 2, > >> "weights" : [ [ -3.115116035462417 ], [ > -3.969281643687132 ] ] > >> } > >> ] > >> } > >> > >> The key-value nesting is quite powerful for this type of open > structure... > >> > >>> On 7 Sep 2021, at 15:51, Christof Ressi <i...@christofressi.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Can you give an example of how the data is structured? > >>> > >>> In which ways are users supposed to interact with the data? > >>> > >>> Christof > >>> > >>> On 07.09.2021 16:37, Pierre Alexandre Tremblay wrote: > >>>> Dear all > >>>> > >>>> I am trying to find the most Pd-vanilla-way to interface with our > Dataset object in the FluCoMa project. In Max and SuperCollider we use > Dictionaries, which are nestable and queryable in powerful programmatic > ways, working essentially like interfaces to JSON-like data structures. > >>>> > >>>> I’ve looked at [struct] but the [set] object does not allow to do > symbols and (list of) floats, and [appends] seem to have the same > limitations. In all cases, I’m not certain it is the best approach in any > cases to create such a list in Pd... > >>>> > >>>> I wonder how people do it and if I am missing an obvious workflow, > especially with nested structures. > >>>> > >>>> Any pointer (pun intended) welcome > >>>> > >>>> p > > > > <json-test.pd><test.json> > >
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