Thx for fix & additional info IOhannes - not too shabby then...
------- Original Message ------- On Thursday, December 15th, 2022 at 11:23, IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoel...@iem.at> wrote: > > > On 12/14/22 23:55, Julian Brooks wrote: > > > Yes, I'm one of those... > > > then i think you should start setting an explicit seed right now. > > the simplest way i've found to force the currently hardcoded seed (for > the first instantiated random generater), is something like this: > > 1. seed the random generator with 255406 > 2. discard the first 3186 random numbers > > like so: > #N canvas 2082 640 533 344 12; > #X msg 307 69 seed 255406; > #X msg 327 123 3186; > #X obj 327 148 until; > #X obj 230 246 spigot; > #X msg 307 174 1; > #X obj 230 271 print; > #X msg 202 166 bang; > #X obj 307 94 t b b a b; > #X msg 367 172 0; > #X obj 230 221 random 100; > #X obj 281 197 t a; > #X obj 367 200 t f; > #X text 311 45 reset; > #X connect 0 0 7 0; > #X connect 1 0 2 0; > #X connect 2 0 10 0; > #X connect 3 0 5 0; > #X connect 4 0 11 0; > #X connect 6 0 9 0; > #X connect 7 0 4 0; > #X connect 7 1 1 0; > #X connect 7 2 10 0; > #X connect 7 3 8 0; > #X connect 8 0 11 0; > #X connect 9 0 3 0; > #X connect 10 0 9 0; > #X connect 11 0 3 1; > > > [random] seems to rear its head now & then. > > > of course it loops. it's a pseudo random generator. > however, i find that the underlying algorithm is somewhat perfect with > regard to repetition (last time i checked, it required about 4294967295 > iterations to repeat, which is pretty good for a 32bit integer number). > > that's not to say that the distribution for small ranges as output by > [random] might not be ideal. > > > My memory is that when asked on here, Miller was a little coy about the > > algo (when was highlighted on-list as an 'interesting' [non-standard] > > implementation:) > > > iirc, miller always claimed that he was just blindly hitting the number > keys to generate large numbers. > > i don't fully trust this statement for the actual random generator > (given that it consumes all possible numbers before repeating), but for > the seed generator this is somewhat plausible, as this one only takes > 536870912 iterations to repeat itself (so the PRNG itself has an 8-times > longer period) > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list