Well, I can't reproduce that here - I tried with 0.54-0, 0.55-0test2c. and the latest build from CI:

time ~/Desktop/Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -send "pd quit"
--> 0.03s user 0.08s system 13% cpu 0.854 total

time ~/Applications/Pd-0.54-1.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd  -send "pd quit"
--> 0.03s user 0.09s system 13% cpu 0.882 total

time ~/Desktop/Pd-0.55-0test3-21-gb6476e02.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -send "pd quit"
--> 0.03s user 0.08s system 12% cpu 0.860 total

I got very little variation in the execution times, except that the first time in a series of running the same app there was an additional 0.06 sec.  (The first time of all that I ran each app it was a bit slower yet).

This is on an M2 Mac MINI with 8MB memory.  My guess is this would be a faster machine than a Macbook air so these might be consistent with your 0.55 behavior, but not with your (faster) 0.54 results.

Oh - I didn't include any plug-in, just straight Pd distribution.

On 5/27/24 9:58 PM, Benjamin Wesch wrote:
thanks a lot for pointing out 'hyperfine' and for providing this
somewhat self-defeating plugin.

comparing 0.54-1 to the artifact from the iem pipeline for 618b6325
now, i get the results below. side notes:
* the plugin is present in all cases, but should only affect the last
comparison, i assume
* it's a bit irritating to me that quitting 618b63 is slower via
'-send' flag than through the plugin, but this was obviously caused by
outliers (although i got similar results with another 10 runs)

| version | flags                  | time                  |
|---------|------------------------|-----------------------|
| 0.54-1  | -nogui -send "pd quit" |   78.5 ms ±    0.6 ms |
| 618b63  | -nogui -send "pd quit" |   77.9 ms ±    1.3 ms |
|         |                        |                       |
| 0.54-1  |        -send "pd quit" |  327.2 ms ±    5.6 ms |
| 618b63  |        -send "pd quit" | 2512.9 ms ± 1523.3 ms |
|         |                        |                       |
| 0.54-1  |                        |  396.5 ms ±    4.7 ms |
| 618b63  |                        | 2117.4 ms ±  518.0 ms |

... and a bit of system info:

Model Name: MacBook Air
Model Identifier: Mac14,2
Model Number: MLY33D/A
Chip: Apple M2
Total Number of Cores: 8 (4 performance and 4 efficiency)
Memory: 8 GB

System Version: macOS 14.5 (23F79)
Kernel Version: Darwin 23.5.0

cheers,
ben

Am Mo., 27. Mai 2024 um 15:08 Uhr schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig <[email protected]>:
On 5/27/24 12:15, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

here's what i get on my Debian system using `hyperfine` (which runs the
application multiple times, to cater for disk-caching and whatnot)

| version | flags  | time                |
|---------|--------|---------------------|
| 0.54-1  |        | 131.7 ms ±  21.8 ms |
| 0.54-1  | -nogui | 4.7 ms ±   2.6 ms   |
| 618b63  |        | 38.4 ms ±   3.6 ms  |
| 618b63  | -nogui | 4.1 ms ±   2.3 ms   |


[...]
if you want to measure the time until the GUI is fully available, you
probably have to use a GUI plugin that quits Pd from the GUI side.
so i went ahead and created the following GUI-plugin named
"quitter-plugin.tcl":
```tcl
after idle {pdsend "pd quit"}
```

now Pd will quit once the GUI has become "idle" (right after startup).
which gives me the following stats:

| version | time                |
|---------|---------------------|
| 0.54-1  | 249.9 ms ±  61.8 ms |
| 618b63  | 202.3 ms ± 119.3 ms |

so you can see, it is much slower than the naive "-send 'pd quit'" test.

Pd-0.55 is still much faster that 0.54-1, at least for me.


gdmfar
IOhannes
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