Hmm, sounds like there are more than one problem...

Can you (and Ben too if he's willing) try these...

time ..../Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -send "pd quit"

time ..../Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -nosound -send "pd quit"

time ..../Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -noprefs -send "pd quit"

time ..../Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -nostdpath -send "pd quit"

I'm grasping at straws here :) Guessing that William's 8-second startup and new popup might be something external that's fighting with some Mac plist setting in Pd that might have changed.

thanks
M

On 6/1/24 12:12 AM, William Brent wrote:
Thanks for this new release! Unfortunately, I can confirm the extra startup delay for macOS... I tested on an M1 machine with 64GB of memory running macOS 14.5.

Also, I get the attached popup every time I open the app, even after clicking "allow." Maybe there's something in macOS preferences that will suppress it? After clicking "allow," it takes a full 8sec for the Pd window to appear. I've only timed this casually with my watch at this point, but after trying multiple times I can say that it's consistently around 8sec for me here. Pd-0.54-1 consistently springs to life in about 1sec for me.

I'm happy to run any specific test routines if I can be useful on this.
William


On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 1:10 PM Miller Puckette <[email protected]> wrote:

    Test 3 is out.  This should resolve all the trouble we've had with
    test2
    except that one tester on MacOS is still finding that Pd 0.55
    loads way
    more slowly than 0.54 - I  don't see that happening on my machine
    and I
    don't know how many machines will be affected... it might take a
    while
    to track this one down, but hopefully it won't affect many
    people.  If
    you _do_ notice longer startup times on MacOS please let me (or
    the Pd
    list) know - with more data points it migth be easier for me to
    replicate the problem for myself.

    as usual: http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm OR
    https://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm

    source on github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
    
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    cheers

    Miller




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