And here are my results running those tests:

/Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -send "pd quit"
0.02s user 0.03s system 1% cpu 2.987 total

time /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -nosound
-send "pd quit"
0.02s user 0.03s system 1% cpu 2.976 total

time /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -noprefs
-send "pd quit"
0.02s user 0.03s system 1% cpu 3.150 total

time /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -nostdpath
-send "pd quit"
0.02s user 0.03s system 1% cpu 3.073 total

The same tests with 54-1 give me cpu times of about 0.35sec. And (probably
unrelated), with 55-0, I get "error: error parsing startup arguments" when
running each of these despite the arguments appearing to have their effect.
With 54-1 I don't get the error post.


On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 1:33 AM Miller Puckette <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hmm, sounds like there are more than one problem...
>
> Can you (and Ben too if he's willing) try these...
>
> time ..../Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -send "pd quit"
>
> time ..../Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -nosound -send
> "pd quit"
>
> time ..../Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -noprefs -send
> "pd quit"
>
> time ..../Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -nostdpath -send
> "pd quit"
>
> I'm grasping at straws here :) Guessing that William's 8-second startup
> and new popup might be something external that's fighting with some Mac
> plist setting in Pd that might have changed.
>
> thanks
> M
>
> On 6/1/24 12:12 AM, William Brent wrote:
> > Thanks for this new release! Unfortunately, I can confirm the extra
> > startup delay for macOS... I tested on an M1 machine with 64GB of
> > memory running macOS 14.5.
> >
> > Also, I get the attached popup every time I open the app, even after
> > clicking "allow." Maybe there's something in macOS preferences that
> > will suppress it? After clicking "allow," it takes a full 8sec for the
> > Pd window to appear. I've only timed this casually with my watch at
> > this point, but after trying multiple times I can say that it's
> > consistently around 8sec for me here. Pd-0.54-1 consistently springs
> > to life in about 1sec for me.
> >
> > I'm happy to run any specific test routines if I can be useful on this.
> > William
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 1:10 PM Miller Puckette
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >     Test 3 is out.  This should resolve all the trouble we've had with
> >     test2
> >     except that one tester on MacOS is still finding that Pd 0.55
> >     loads way
> >     more slowly than 0.54 - I  don't see that happening on my machine
> >     and I
> >     don't know how many machines will be affected... it might take a
> >     while
> >     to track this one down, but hopefully it won't affect many
> >     people.  If
> >     you _do_ notice longer startup times on MacOS please let me (or
> >     the Pd
> >     list) know - with more data points it migth be easier for me to
> >     replicate the problem for myself.
> >
> >     as usual: http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm OR
> >     https://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
> >
> >     source on github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
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> >
> >     cheers
> >
> >     Miller
> >
> >
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