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One scenario comes to mind...
Some people download PDF files to a
printer/RIP.
No open file
No view file
No print file
Under this concept, the fonts may not be on
the printer/RIP...
michael vorel
Rich Sprague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
03/31/2004 01:48 PM
Please respond to pdf
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc: Dov Isaacs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PDF] embedding v/s not embedding font
I never have understood Adobe's logic re:
font embedding choices.
If one has to have the font installed on
their system for editing, why would
one want to include the entire font in the
PDF? Also, both Dov and Leonard
have made it crystal clear that all fonts
should be embedded in a PDF,
including Arial and Times New Roman.
Particularly with the Press job
options, why is there even a choice?
Shouldn't it just be embed and subset
and be done with it?
Rich
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Behalf Of Kenton Smith
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:20 AM
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Subject: Re: [PDF] embedding v/s not
embedding font
I have had fonts on my system that were
subset in a PDF and when I went to
edit the file I could not. When the fonts
were not subset and on my system I
could edit text. So my experience is that I
have to have the fonts embedded
in the PDF file to edit it. I don't know
about embedded fonts that are not
on my system, I have never tried.
--
Kenton Smith
Production Director/Designer
Scrapbook Retailer Magazine
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On 3/31/04 10:59 AM, "Dov Isaacs"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Quite frankly, it buys you absolutely
nothing to fully embed a
> font in terms of "editability" of a PDF
file.
>
> When you use Acrobat's Text Touch-Up Tool
or the text edit
> features within Enfocus PitStop, it is
irrelevant as to whether
> the font is subset or not. Both of these
tools require that the
> font be installed on your system anyway
and gets any "missing"
> glyphs from that copy.
>
> The downside of not subset embedding is
that you can get
> dramatic file bloat due to all those
un-referenced glyph
> definitions in your PDF file.
>
> - Dov
>
> At 3/31/2004 09:49 AM, Rich Sprague wrote:
>
>> Not really.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Kenton Smith
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:42 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [PDF] embedding v/s not
embedding font
>>
>> I always turn subset off, just in case I
need to edit something. Is there
a
>> reason, besides file size, that I should
have the fonts subset?
>> --
>> Kenton Smith
>> Production Director/Designer
>> Scrapbook Retailer Magazine
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On 3/31/04 10:14 AM, "Dov Isaacs"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> At 3/31/2004 02:50 AM, MN wrote:
>>>
>>>> what could be the scenarios under which
we should embed or not embed
the
>>>> fonts
>>>> in a pdf. if any one can list out
advantage/ disadvantages for this
>>>> or any link on such resource will be
very useful.
>>>>
>>>> thanks...
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>> MN
>>>
>>>
>>> In the general case, you should always
embed fonts (subsetted).
>>> When you DON'T embed the fonts and the
PDF file is displayed
>>> and/or printed by someone who does NOT
have those fonts installed
>>> on their computer system, at BEST the
quality and style of the
>>> type does not match those of the
original document. At WORST,
>>> certain characters may be improperly
displayed or printed or not
>>> displayed or printed at all. PDF files
without embedded fonts
>>> are a real crapshoot!
>>>
>>> - Dov
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