Well, it is several machines for several users, not that many. We don't have formal admins and developers, we just do. It's called science. ;) And I have used it for years and this is one of the rare occasions where it causes troubles.
Out of curiosity, how do manage modules? Ingo On 2/13/2022 10:11 PM, David Mertens wrote: > Ingo, > > It sounds like you are the system administrator for your machines? > That is the only situation in which I would consider using sudo cpanm. > > David > > On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 11:11 AM Ingo Schmid <ingo...@gmx.at> wrote: > > Hi Ed, > > I see what you mean. But then it is just me having access to those > modules and not other users. Are you suggesting it is best > practice to install perl modules per user? That requires a lot of > redundant work if you have a group using the software. > > I suppose in the particular case, catching an empty > XDG_RUNTIME_DIR and setting to some temp directory would resolve > the issue. > > Best wishes Ingo > > On 2/13/2022 2:26 PM, Ed . wrote: >> >> Hi Ingo, >> >> >> >> cpanm is certainly the best tool for installing Perl modules! But >> if you’re in a package-managed environment and want to use the >> system Perl (which is understandable, it’s very stable), then >> current best practice is to not install any non-package-managed >> modules in the system location. Instead, you should use a >> local::lib as Zaki said, so that your personally-installed >> modules overlay any system ones. In particular, if you find >> yourself using “sudo” to install Perl modules off CPAN, that is a >> sign of poor practice. >> >> >> >> Another benefit of this strategy is that because you install >> modules as your normal user, it has access to all your normal >> environment. There are also security benefits. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Ed >> >> >> >> *From: *Ingo Schmid <mailto:ingo...@gmx.at> >> *Sent: *13 February 2022 09:09 >> *To: *Zakariyya Mughal <mailto:zaki.mug...@gmail.com>; >> pdl-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> *Subject: *Re: [Pdl-devel] PDL::Graphics::Simple >> >> >> >> Hi Zaki, >> >> thank you for the suggestion. Yes, that is exactly the issue. The >> question to me is rather, if this is desired. Who runs an X >> session as >> root ? >> >> Isn't using cpanm the way to maintain Perl modules these days? I will >> open an issue and I have a hunch this could easily be caught >> during build. >> >> Ingo >> >> On 2/12/2022 12:59 AM, Zakariyya Mughal wrote: >> > On 2022-02-11 at 10:49:12 +0100, Ingo Schmid wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> the other mail made me aware of P:G:S, now I was doing >> >> >> >> #> sudo cpanm PDL::Graphics::Simple >> >> >> >> on Debian testing and during make test I received this error >> after the >> >> label plot is shown: >> >> >> >> Gnuplot error: "QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, >> defaulting to >> >> '/tmp/runtime-root'" while sending final multiplot command. at >> >> /usr/local/share/perl/5.32.1/PDL/Graphics/Gnuplot.pm line >> 4346, <STDIN> >> >> line 7. >> >> PDL::Graphics::Gnuplot::multiplot(undef, "layout", >> >> ARRAY(0x55c8040dbb08)) called at >> >> >> >> /root/.cpanm/work/1644572352.1118703/PDL-Graphics-Simple-1.007/blib/lib/PDL/Graphics/Simple/Gnuplot.pm >> >> line 360 >> >> >> >> PDL::Graphics::Simple::Gnuplot::plot(PDL::Graphics::Simple::Gnuplot=HASH(0x55c8040e2378), >> HASH(0x55c8040f5910), ARRAY(0x55c80410c888)) called at >> >> /root/.cpanm/work/1644572352.1118703/PDL-Graphics-Simple-1.007/blib/lib/PDL/Graphics/Simple.pm >> line 1044 >> >> >> PDL::Graphics::Simple::plot(PDL::Graphics::Simple=HASH(0x55c8040ede58), >> "with", "image", PDL=SCALAR(0x55c8040d3e58)) called at >> >> /root/.cpanm/work/1644572352.1118703/PDL-Graphics-Simple-1.007/blib/lib/PDL/Graphics/Simple.pm >> line 1127 >> >> PDL::Graphics::Simple::_convenience_plot("image", >> >> PDL::Graphics::Simple=HASH(0x55c8040ede58), >> PDL=SCALAR(0x55c8040d3e58), >> >> HASH(0x55c8040edae0), HASH(0x55c8040d3e88)) called at >> >> >> >> /root/.cpanm/work/1644572352.1118703/PDL-Graphics-Simple-1.007/blib/lib/PDL/Graphics/Simple.pm >> >> line 1143 >> >> >> PDL::Graphics::Simple::image(PDL::Graphics::Simple=HASH(0x55c8040ede58), >> PDL=SCALAR(0x55c8040d3e58), HASH(0x55c8040edae0)) called at >> t/simple.t line 145 >> >> >> >> Have you got any ideas? >> >> Ingo >> > >> > Hello Ingo, >> > >> > Since you are using `sudo` to install, it is using the root user's >> > environment (actually a reduced environment that `sudo` >> creates*) which >> > does not have `XDG_RUNTIME_DIR` set. Gnuplot needs to have >> > `XDG_RUNTIME_DIR` set in order to run during the dist's tests. >> You can >> > set the variable to a temporary directory: >> > >> > sudo bash -c 'XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=$(mktemp -d) cpanm --test-only >> PDL::Graphics::Simple' >> > >> > I would recommend installing packages to a `local::lib` instead >> of using `sudo`. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > - Zaki Mughal >> > >> > * Run `sudo env` to see what is set. >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> pdl-devel mailing list >> >> pdl-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pdl-devel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pdl-devel mailing list >> pdl-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pdl-devel >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > pdl-devel mailing list > pdl-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pdl-devel > > > > -- > "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. > Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, > by definition, not smart enough to debug it." -- Brian Kernighan
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