Please just try with the latest (Perl 5.38, PDL 2.084), and report any problems?

Best regards,
Ed

From: ng0...@gmail.com<mailto:ng0...@gmail.com>
Sent: 31 August 2023 19:09
To: Ingo Schmid<mailto:ingo...@gmx.at>
Cc: pdl-devel@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:pdl-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Pdl-devel] Debian 12 "-t experimental" install of PDL

Hello Ingo,

much appreciate! Just to ask which perl version is most likely to run the 
commands from the First Step PDL Book?

@anyone: which perl version is known to work for that purpose?

Thanks a lot, Thomas

On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 11:00 AM Ingo Schmid 
<ingo...@gmx.at<mailto:ingo...@gmx.at>> wrote:

Hi,

I have not really read through the whole thread, I apologise if this does not 
apply to your problem then.

I have moved most of the PDL stuff to perlbrew which allows a fairly system 
independent installation, it's berrybrew on windows, I don't own Macs. On 
linux, your distribution most probably provides it, I used apt to install the 
software itself. The best part about is, that system (perl) upgrades don't 
break your PDL installation. This allowed me to consistently run things cross 
platform with no troubles for a long time.

Run

> perlbrew install <perl version>
> perlbrew install-cpanm
> perlbrew install-patchperl
It takes a fair amount of installation time and I guess disk space, defaults to 
your home.

Please consult the perlbrew docs for the exact process, this is I think the 
most useful info: https://perlbrew.pl/Perlbrew-and-Friends.html. Once you are 
set, use

> perlbrew switch ...

> cpanm PDL::Graphics::Simple

I guess you may need to install a few dependencies that are either ambiguous or 
simply missing using cpanm from the same shell. I don't remember if P:G:S comes 
with a default backend or if you need to, for example, install gnuplot.

I hope this helps.

Ingo
On 8/31/23 10:12, ng0...@gmail.com<mailto:ng0...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

would anyone with a working version mind to post some hints on how to achieve:

cpan PDL::Graphics::Simple
pdl> use PDL::Graphics::Simple
pdl> imag (sin(rvals(200,200)+1))

on no matter on which platform but with the least number of steps?

Thanks a lot, Thomas

On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 4:51 PM William Schmidt 
<t.william.schm...@gmail.com<mailto:t.william.schm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Thomas (ngO177),

I encountered a similar problem building PDL 2.083 and 2.084 in macOS 
Monterrey, to wit: getting PDL::Graphics::Simple to work, or even to pass its 
build tests.  Rather than repeat the odyssey I went through here I suggest you 
read the write-up I did at perlmonks that documents the build debug process:

https://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=11153860

I posted this as open-issue #450 at PDL meta-cpan, but alas, no one from PDL 
dev has, as yet, bothered to read it.  In a nutshell, you need a graphics 
engine on your machine and if there isn't one, or PDL can't find it, the Alien 
process (since a graphics engine is defined in PDL-speak as an alien process) 
will find one appropriate to your OS on the net, download and build it for you. 
Alas, for macOS Monterrey, Alien built a crippled plotting engine. It failed to 
un-comment any of the three #ifdef terminal definitions that support graphics 
in macOS. Thus, no terminal def for macOS was compiled into gnuplot. The fix, 
for me, was to rtfm the build docs, initialize the environment to point to my 
preferred graphics engine (gnuplot, built by me with macports rather than 
Alien), and enable interactive build tests.  To be fair to PDL developers, this 
is all documented in the PDL build instructions and 'man gnuplot', but most of 
us take the ease of building Perl modules for granted and don't bother to read 
them unless something goes wrong.  Alien is a brilliant idea but at present its 
execution in PDL is flawed. It attempts to transparently obtain for you an 
appropriate graphics engine but fails to build it correctly.  With a little 
hacking you can get around this, I did, but as always, your mileage will vary.  
I would very much like to hear from you after you have read the perlmonks post 
and evaluated my solution in a Linux context.  My PDL in Monterrey is now 
working correctly, so I held off trying to build PDL in Ubuntu, but if nothing 
works for you I will give it a try.

Regards,
Will Schmidt (perlboy_emeritus)




On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 5:22 AM <ng0...@gmail.com<mailto:ng0...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
Hello,

in order to take some first steps
cpan PDL::Graphics::Simple
pdl> use PDL::Graphics::Simple
pdl> imag (sin(rvals(200,200)+1))

on Debian 12 w/ experimental repos activated, all I try, see below, fails.

Any ideas?
Appreciate, Thomas
pdl

sudo apt -t experimental install pdl

sudo apt -t experimental install pgplot5

sudo apt -t experimental install libpgplot-perl


sudo apt -t experimental install libpdl-graphics-gnuplot-perl

cpan
graphics simple

cpan PDL::Graphics::Simple

...

Test Summary Report

-------------------

t/simple.t (Wstat: 512 (exited 2) Tests: 24 Failed: 2)

  Failed tests:  1, 12

  Non-zero exit status: 2

  Parse errors: No plan found in TAP output

Files=1, Tests=24,  2 wallclock secs ( 0.01 usr  0.00 sys +  0.26 cusr  0.22 
csys =  0.49 CPU)

Result: FAIL

Failed 1/1 test programs. 2/24 subtests failed.

make: *** [Makefile:851: test_dynamic] Error 2

  ETJ/PDL-Graphics-Simple-1.009.tar.gz

  make test -- NOT OK

//hint// to see the cpan-testers results for installing this module, try:

  reports ETJ/PDL-Graphics-Simple-1.009.tar.gz

dh-make-perl

https://wiki.debian.org/PerlFAQ

sudo apt -t experimental install dh-make-perl


dh-make-perl --build --cpan PDL::Graphics::Simple



...

Test Summary Report

-------------------

t/simple.t (Wstat: 512 (exited 2) Tests: 24 Failed: 2)

  Failed tests:  1, 12

  Non-zero exit status: 2

  Parse errors: No plan found in TAP output

Files=1, Tests=24,  1 wallclock secs ( 0.01 usr  0.00 sys +  0.29 cusr  0.21 
csys =  0.51 CPU)

Result: FAIL

Failed 1/1 test programs. 2/24 subtests failed.

make[1]: *** [Makefile:854: test_dynamic] Error 2

make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/th6mas/PDL-Graphics-Simple-1.009'

dh_auto_test: error: make -j1 test TEST_VERBOSE=1 returned exit code 2

make: *** [debian/rules:4: build] Error 255

make: Leaving directory '/home/th6mas/PDL-Graphics-Simple-1.009'

Cannot create deb package: 'debian/rules build' failed.

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