So I guess the question is, do all the pdml'ers who have their photos on the
lycos photocenter, also have their own web site?.
Ken Waller
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From: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Pentax Discuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 12:38 AM
Subject: Fw: Lycos Photocenter (KMM6850779C0KM)
> I send this as testament to what a bunch of creeps Lycos is.
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "william robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Lycos Photocenter (KMM6850779C0KM)
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Thank you for writing to Lycos.
> >
> > Lycos maintains a catalog of Internet sites, analogous to the
> white
> > pages of a phone book. We provide this catalog to the public
> as a free
> > information service and research tool. Due to the size and
> nature of
> > our catalog, it's not possible for us to remove individual
> results. As
> > with any Web search, Lycos claims no right to these files and
> directs
> > our users to contact the administrator of the Web site in
> question for
> > more information on the use of copyrighted photographs.
> >
> > The Lycos Multimedia Search engine employs spiders that scour
> the
> > internet for rich media content, much like a regular search
> engine
> > would. My understanding is that because we are not publishing
> your
> > photos, rather we link off to your site, this is not an
> illegal
> > practice. You can find more information at:
> >
> > http://www.lycos.com/lycosinc/legal.html
> >
> > To prohibit spiders from any server from accessing your site,
> you must
> > make use of the robots.txt standard. What is robots.txt? This
> small text
> > file is like a traffic cop that tells our software which parts
> of your
> > site can be examined and indexed. Ask your Web hosting company
> if your
> > site already employs this file. If not, it is a fairly simple
> matter to
> > create your own robots.txt file.
> >
> > You will find further information about robots.txt files at
> the
> > following sites.
> >
> > http://www.lycos.com/help/robots.html
> >
> > http://www.kollar.com/robots.html
> >
> > You may also wish to read the following article regarding an
> image
> > copyright case:
> >
> >
> > Ditto.com wins image copyright case
> > Ruling may have sweeping implications for search engines
> > By Elliot Zaret <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MSNBC
> >
> > SAN FRANCISCO, Dec. 17 - In a case that may have sweeping
> implications
> > for search engines of all kinds, a federal judge in California
> has ruled
> > that a "visual search engine" did not violate copyright laws
> by
> > collecting thumbnail images of photographs from the Web and
> displaying
> > them on its site. The necessity of searching the Internet
> outweighed any
> > other factor in determining whether a copyright was violated,
> the judge
> > said.
> >
> > IN JANUARY, a California photographer sued Ditto.com
> > <http://www.ditto.com>, then known as the Arriba Vista Image
> Searcher,
> > for violating her copyright by collecting and displaying 35 of
> her
> > copyrighted images on its site as search results. The Ditto
> search
> > engine works by "spidering" the Web - having a computer
> program collect
> > some two million images from any site on the Internet it can
> find them -
> > then shrinking each image down to a thumbnail image that is
> displayed in
> > the search result. The photographer argued that an image is an
> image and
> > displaying her copyrighted photographs without her
> permission - and
> > making money in the process - was effectively stealing. The
> U.S.
> > District Court judge in Santa Ana, Calif. ruled that Ditto
> wasn't
> > stealing the images. But the 15-page decision, handed down
> late
> > Thursday, was somewhat more complicated - with the judge
> effectively
> > giving a split decision on many of the relevant issues.
> However the
> > judge said that the crucial role search engines serve for
> users of the
> > Internet outweighs the other factors and makes Ditto's
> thumbnails "fair
> > use" of the images. "(The photographer's) images were swept up
> along
> > with two million others available on the Internet, as part of
> (Ditto's)
> > efforts to provide its users with a better way to find images
> on the
> > Internet," wrote the judge. "(Ditto's) purposes were and are
> inherently
> > transformative, even if its realization of those purposes was
> at times
> > imperfect. Where, as here, a new use and new technology are
> evolving,
> > the broad transformative purpose of the use weighs more
> heavily than the
> > inevitable flaws in its early stages of development." The
> judge also
> > said that thumbnails themselves - though an exact replica of
> the
> > original photos - had to be considered different from the
> originals
> > because they served an entirely different purpose. "The
> character of the
> > thumbnail index is not esthetic, but functional; it's purpose
> is not to
> > be artistic, but to be comprehensive," the judge wrote.
> Ditto.com's
> > attorney Judy Jennison, who heads the Silicon Valley
> Intellectual
> > Property Litigation Practice of Perkins Coie, said the
> decision
> > validates the importance of navigation tools like search
> engines on the
> > Internet. "Generally speaking, the court has realized that the
> Internet
> > is important to all of us, and helping people navigate the
> Internet is
> > an important thing," said Jennison. "It's clearly the right
> decision for
> > the Internet."
> >
> > SWEEPING RAMIFICATIONS?
> >
> > Rich Gray, an intellectual property attorney and founding
> partner of
> > Outside General Counsel Silicon Valley, said the case may have
> sweeping
> > ramifications for the industry. "It's very pro-fair use in the
> Internet
> > context, which has implications in all kinds of things ranging
> from
> > search engines to deep linking to framing," Gray said. For
> instance, the
> > case seems to support the right of a music search engine to
> play clips
> > of songs sold on MP3 sites, Gray said. And the case may come
> into play
> > in a case filed this week by online auction giant eBay, which
> claimed
> > that Bidder's Edge effectively stole eBay information by
> searching eBay
> > listings with its auction search engine. However Gray warned
> that it's
> > only one ruling in the nascent field of law and cyberspace -
> and until
> > more cases are decided, every case will be looked at
> differently. "It
> > wouldn't shock me if a similar case was brought in a different
> district
> > court and a different result happened," Gray said. "This could
> have gone
> > either way."
> >
> >
> > Farah
> >
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> > Original message follows:
> > -------------------------
> >
> >
> > Message from WilliamRobb:
> > The following URL is in violation of copyright
> >
> >
> http://www.multimedia.lycos.com/default.asp?component=MorePictur
> es&query
> > =william+robb&ff=0
> > and
> >
> >
> http://www.multimedia.lycos.com/default.asp?query=william+robb&f
> irst=10&
> > component=MorePictures&ff=0
> >
> > Remove my images from your site immediately.
> > William Robb
> > ID :
> > ( PARTNER ) :
> > ( PTNR ) :
> > Platform : Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)
> > RE :
> >
> http://www.multimedia.lycos.com/default.asp?component=MorePictur
> es&query
> > =william+robb&ff=0
> >
> >
> >
> >
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