----- Original Message -----
From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: January 29, 2001 12:53 PM
Subject: Limited lenses design philosophy (WAS: Plastic Crap
Lenses or High-Tech Precision?)


>
> Bob S wrote:
>
> "Is it for similar reasons that the limited lenses (43mm &
77mm) are
> outrageously expensive?  They seem to be extraordinarily well
made and modern
> compromises to hold the price down seem infrequent in their
design.  But
> there are also some nagging questions about how sharp they are
wide open.
> And we seem to imbue them with other special optical
properties like "3
> dimensional" rendition.
>
> Could it be that these lenses are just a modern return to the
level of
> quality presented in the old screwmounts?  (Also with some
updates for
> optical qualities)"
>
>
>
> REPLY:
>
> The Limited lenses are certainly a look back. Its also no
coincidence that the Limited lenses (so far) are close to sought
after, collectible K-mount lenses; eg. 85/1.8 (77/1.8), 40/2.8
(43/1.9), and 30/2.8 (31/1.8).
> However, their optical properties is born from an even earlier
eras optics. The special 3D qualities is present in the classic
japanese lenses for rangefinders (40's- 50's) due to various
abberations usually corrected in newer lenses. I guess this
qualities may have been present in the lenses for the Asahiflex
and the earliest M42 Takumars. So Pentax have fine tuned various
abberations in the Limited lenses in order to get the same
pleasing effect. The Limited lenses wide-open performance may
not be great, but how many lenses are sharp wide open? I've
never seen a fast lens thats sharp wide open. The sharpest
lenses wide open I have tried are the Macro lenses. Some super
telephotos are also rather sharp wide open, but they are not
fast in absolute terms, only relatively. I've never seen a
F:1.someting that was sharp at those wide apertures.

Just an aside to this, my 77 is only not sharp wide open
compared to how sharp it is stopped down to 5.6 or smaller.
Compared to a lot of other lenses I own (Pentax branded, mostly
M series) it is damned sharp, wide open. My 77 at f 1.8 is
better than my M85 at f 5.6.
William Robb (this week, next week, who knows)
>
>
> Pål


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