Ditto that, for me, Mike.

The thing is most people think professional photographer = famous
photographer. There are many, many professional photographers in the world.
There are few famous photographers. I read somewhere a few years back that
the average wage for full time photographers was $21,000 a year which is
pretty close to what I made when I tried long ago. I bet most of those
reading this list make quite a bit more than that. To be a professional
photo you need to be 1. reliable. 2. competent (not great). 3. cheaper than
the other guy. Probably the most impotant skill for a professional
photographer is not photography, but self-promotion.

In my opinion, most serious ameteurs are more skilled at photography than
most professionals.

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 8:58 AM
Subject: A brief harrumph


> > In fact, I seem to recall that
> > I've read someplace around Luminous Landscape that Mike thinks of
> > anyone who earns money with their camera and lenses as professional,
> > and the rest he considers amateurs of various levels.
>
>
> If I'm the Mike you're talking about (and you weren't talking about
Michael
> Reichmann, who goes by "Michael"), I'm not sure I particularly care about
> the issue one way or the other. Pros know who they are, and there isn't
much
> mistaking a real pro. Where I differ from most hobbyists is that I don't
> consider pros to be the best photographers. I admire their skills,
business
> acumen, and problem-solving abilities, but generally I think that doing
> photography in return for money under the direction of someone else is not
a
> very good way to make good pictures.
>
> Albert Watson, for instance, is tremendously skilled and makes a million
> dollars a year (actually that's probably considerably underestimated). But
> by his own admission he photographs mainly "blue jeans, sunglasses, and
> suits." His job is to make blue jeans, sunglasses and suits look cool,
new,
> and visually exciting, and constantly find new ways to do so. Not an easy
> task, but then again the end result is just not something I particularly
> care about.
>
> Another famous pro once said that his challenge was to take a picture with
a
> perfume bottle in it that would still be a wonderful picture if it didn't
> have the perfume bottle in it. But his tragedy, of course, is that he
cannot
> take the perfume bottle out.
>
> Overall, I'm not very charitable to pros. Anyone who wishes to do so may
> write this off to envy, sour grapes, prejudice, whatever. But I like
_art_.
>
> --Mike
>

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