> Subject: Change in stop down mechanics K vs. M42 was RE: SMC-A 20mm 2.8
> diaphragm
> 
> 
> What you say is true.  If you stick with Pentax(Takumar) you're all set.
> 
> My only point on the K mount change is that it is probably easier to
> engineer

Right


 and build,

Right

 therefore simpler with fewer moving parts

Right


> so it
> 'should' be less expensive

Right



> to manufacture

Right

> with equal reliability.
>

WRONG! The K design is more likely to fail to stop
down ( Actual picture taking ), while the Takumar
design is more like to fail to reopen ( Pictures
will still be fine). Both cases caused by a weakened
old spring.

JCO
 
> At 11:38 AM 12/13/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >Good point. But since you still get the A/M
> >switch on every auto aperture PENTAX screwmount
> >lens, I like that system better. The aperture
> >ALWAYS stops down fully unless it's REALLY
> >fowled with oil because its forced hard
> >by the body and isnt relying on a spring
> >that may weaken with age.
> >JCO
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Peter Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 10:57 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: SMC-A 20mm 2.8 diaphragm
> > >
> > >
> > > Among other things the lens automatically works correctly in
> > > stop down mode on un-coupled devices and when mounted reversed.
> > >
> > > It can be a pain to try to use certain 3rd party m42 lenses 
> on un-coupled
> > > extension tubes or for that matter a K to M42 adapter since 
> they lack auto
> > > manual switches.  Pentax saved a few yen per lens by removing 
> the need for
> > > those switches on the K-mount.
> > >
> > > At 07:52 AM 12/13/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >Anybody know why pentax flip-flopped their
> > > >aperture actuation when they went to k-mount?
> > > >
> > > >On the screwmount lenses the aperture is normally held
> > > >OPEN by a spring and is forced closed by the camera
> > > >at the time of exposure.
> > > >
> > > >On the kmounts the spring holds the aperture
> > > >CLOSED, and the camera forces it open except
> > > >at time of exposure it lets go and the spring does the work.
> > > >
> > > >At least when the spring gets weak with the screwmounts,
> > > >the lens can still be used manually. Not so with the kmounts.
> > > >JCO
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 7:44 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: SMC-A 20mm 2.8 diaphragm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Anton Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Would some of you SMC-A 20mm 2.8 owners check the action of the
> > > > > diaphragm via the lever on the lens please. I have just bought
> > > > > one and it seems very sluggish. Most of my other Pentax lenses
> > > > > snap shut, but they do vary in their snappiness. This 20mm 2.8
> > > > > glides shut and it seems scarcely fast enough to fully close when
> > > > > set at f22 with a fast shutter speed. I'm wondering if 
> it's faulty.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think you have a problem.
> > > > > The diaphragm in my A20/2.8 is just as zippy as any other 
> lens I have.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Mark Roberts
> > > > > Photography and writing
> > > > > www.robertstech.com
> > > > >
> > >
> 

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