On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 12:20, Fred wrote:
> > Fred wrote:
> F>> [The SMC K 135/2.5 is on the left, while the Takumar Bayonet
> F>> 135/"2.5" is on the right.]
> 
> > Fred, Unfortunately I was referring to the SMC K 135/2.5 . :o( The
> > front lens diameter as it appeared to my limited measuring
> > capabilities is around 52mm, that translates to an aperture of 2.6
> > or so. Worse even - the meter agrees.
> 
> Hi, Alin.  I see.  You know, before sending my post (that you
> quoted), I tried to find an older post of mine, where I had stated
> my measurements, but I couldn't find it, so I'll have to measure
> again.  I do remember that the SMC K seemed a little smaller than
> f/2.5 (by measuring and calculating), and that the Tak Bayonet was
> smaller still.  Hmmm...  OK, where are those lenses...
> 
> Well, here's what I just measured and calculated:
> 
> SMC K 135/2.5 : 52mm front element diameter -> f/2.6
> 
> Takumar Bayonet 135/2.5 : 49mm front element diameter -> f/2.8
> 
> Of course, I would probably come up with slightly different
> measurements each time I tried to measure them (since I don't have a
> measuring caliper), and I'm also assuming that both lenses truly
> have 135mm FL's.
> 
> On the theoretical side, it has been pointed out here before that
> the entrance pupil of a lens is not necessarily equal to the clear
> diameter of its front element, but I myself just can't see how a
> 135/2.5 lens could ever have a front element diameter less than 54mm
> and still be an f/2.5 lens.

The FL is probably a bit shorter than 135mm, giving a boost to the
relative aperture.  According to photodo, the real FL of the new FA
135/2.8 is 130mm, and coincidentally 130mm / 52mm = exactly 2.5.

-Scott

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