On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 05:34:48 -0500, you wrote:

>Thanks everyone for the feedback.
>
>Weird. Distinctly weird. If I ever decide to try a reflex lens I will really have to 
>give it a lot of thought first.
>
>It maybe better to buy something like that Pentax 1000 on ebay, although it looks 
>almost five feet long. Hehehe. Naturally it and others like it obviously won't go 
>cheap. Which is a major consideration, of course.
>
>Still processing feedback. Thanks again. Weird.
>
>Doe aka Marnie :-)


Check out my old Mirror Lens page at 
http://www.photolin.com/john/mirror/index.html

The donut effect of a mirror lens can be reduced if one chooses a
distant, smooth background with few or no highlights. But anything in
the background that reflects points of light can become a donut
highlight.

Be aware that old long lenses like the Pentax 1000/f8 and 500/4.5 have
very long minimum focusing distances - the 1000 minimum focus distance
is 30 meters, and the 500/4.5 minimum is 10 meters. FOV for the 1000
at minimum distance is 2.3 x 3.4 feet - not nearly good enough for
birds or many small mammals.

Mirror lenses are often very close focusing (about 1:3).  To
photograph something the size of a song bird with 35mm, one needs
about 600mm focused at a distance of 17 feet to get the proper field
of view for a medium size bird to fill the frame. 

The older long lenses just don't focus that close; real big glass is
often just too expensive; so that leaves us with a few options 
(a) inexpensive but donut-funky mirror lenses, or 
(b) some 300mm with a teleconverter, or 
(c) go where the subject is accustomed to humans nearby so long lenses
are not needed, or very soon 
(d) a 300mm plus 1.4 TC and the FOV crop of a DSLR which shoots just
like a 600/5.6.

--
John Mustarde
www.photolin.com

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