Hi Steveen.
I have the Panosonic PVL 859 VHS-C amcorder.This one actually replaces the model i 
bought
first as 
(l759 i think)as it was going to be to long to fix the problem i had with it(some 
pixels
were burnt out 
leaving a white dot on the tape)I complained and they gave me the next model up as
compensation.   
Any way i digres.
I like this model,which is now obsolete(bought in Nov 1999)and paid somewere in the
$900.00 Can
for it.We bought the VHS-C as you can use an adaptor to play the tape back.At the 
time,non
of
our TV's wanted to play back from the corder. It has a colour viewer which i can take 
or
leave.Lots of 
effects,fadding,titles etc.Good fast zoom.
You are correct that tapes are 30 min,although i beleive a 40 min tape is (was)
available.I use it 99% 
of the time to tape rounds of jumping or dressage tests and i keep it at SLP which 
gives
me 90 min.
Out doors the quality is good.Indoor i take advantage of a very good back light feature
Panasonic 
has.Its a 3 step system.I like it a lot.Beats the heck out of the one step systems by 
far.
The view screen is big,4" and colour.Very handy when playing back a tape for a rider 
out
doors.They 
can actually see it:)
It also has a digital still camera for about 10-12 pictures around 740 x 980 or some 
thing
like that.Dont 
use it very much.    
Extra batteries i use the Optex ones with"no memory"I get 1 1/2 hours out of a 2 hour
battery,better 
than what i get from the Panosonic one.
I dont know much about the JVC's but i can recommend the Panosonics.I'd buy another 
one.

Hope that helps

Dave


                                > My daughter is thinking of buying a VHS-C camcorder 
becuase its easy to
> play back althoguh the longest tapes are only 30 min.  Does anyone know
> anything about this or at least what to avoid.  The common brands appear
> to be Panasonic and JVC.
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Steven Desjardins
> Department of Chemistry
> Washington and Lee University
> Lexington, VA 24450
> (540) 458-8873
> FAX: (540) 458-8878
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

                                


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