That was just the point some people are trying to make: numbers exist in nature. Nobody has doubted that numbers and fomulas are extremely useful in describing natural phenomena. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
-----Alkuper�inen viesti----- L�hett�j�: P�l Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> P�iv�: 30. joulukuuta 2002 14:45 Aihe: Re: Numbers and the Golden Section >Mike wrote: > >> Sorry, Bob, but I'm with Dr. Don on this one. What he's said about six times >> is perfectly correct and I think you're the one not getting it. Mathematics >> is a human invention and a late one. It hasn't "existed since the dawn of >> time." How did it exist? Were there dinosaur math professors? It's a human >> invention, practiced by humans, and it's evolving--it's a hell of a lot more >> advanced right now than it was fifty or a hundred years ago, never mind >> since the dawn of time. What, was differential calculus just out there on >> the savannahs waiting for the Neanderthals to discover it? >> >> What you're saying makes no more sense than saying that carburetors have >> existed since the dawn of time. Or scissors, or opera. > > >This is a total misconception. The point isn't whether numbers exist in nature but >whether number can describe relations in nature. > >P�l > > >

