I rest my case. Wouldn't it be simpler to move the damn stuff to a less flood prone area - like say the Simpson Desert? :):). If it keeps happening (which it does) then surely seeking alternative storage is the only responsible thing to...and any organization or staff that use basement storage that is below a modern flood level is just plain thick. Blind freddy should be able to work that one out.

As for modern paper...anything worth publishing should be published on high quality acid free paper at least.

Cheers

Shaun

Dr E D F Williams wrote:
Italy has more than its fair share of natural disasters. Besides building
new places to house these valuable collections in some other part of the
city there's nothing they can do. Since the 12th Century Florence has
suffered a major flood every 25 years or so and a devastating one, once per
Century. The Romans were not renowned for their forestry conservation and
they denuded the countryside of all timber. As a result the Arno has silted
to a depth of 12 metres since those times and the flooding will go on. It
may seem ridiculous to us that, with all this foreknowledge, parts of the
most valuable collections in the world were kept in basements well below the
flood line. In libraries everywhere there is always the problem of space for
stacks and because it was at an absolute premium in the BNCF they did this
very stupid thing. Its simply a matter of money. And this materialised in
uncommon amounts, from rescue committees all over the world, when it was
needed to save the books.

The technology is simple. Wipe the damaged material with a sponge to remove
as much mud and muck as you can, then sprinkle with sawdust to absorb
moisture. Dry in a warm place. In Florence they used tobacco kilns and grain
drying barns. The next step is to remove as much dried mud as possible and
then wash the book, or sheets, or whatever, in warm water. Several changes
were used and then they were finally dried. I don't know how this was done
for books, but they may have interleaved the wet book in some way. But its
obvious that for single sheets like photographs and drawings this should be
done flat between layers of water absorbent material.

By the way the Library of Congress thinks there are 75 million books in the
last stages of embrittlement in the world's libraries. Modern paper is just
not made to last. Its full of all kinds of fillers, alum rosin sizes,
chemically active bleaching agents and so on. Its also made of wood fibre
and not long-fibred rag. Modern paper is quite acid and after some time it
yellows, becomes brittle and falls to pieces. Williams J. Barrow produced a
durable paper with a calcium buffer that may last for at least 400 years,
but no one seems interested.

Don

Don Williams
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Dr E D F Williams
http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams
Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery
Updated: March 30, 2002


----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Canning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: Floods, WAS: OT: Manfrotto tripod mini-report



Yes Don, that's wonderful, and your point is not lost on conservation
people like me. Of course technology can be of significant help. But it
probably helps more if we take major steps to ensure that significant or
irreplaceable items of local or international cultural value are
protected from such mundane threats as floods or mud's.

Cheers

Shaun

Dr E D F Williams wrote:

In 1966 Florence was hit by the devastating 'Arno' flood. Ancient books

in

30 libraries suffered terrible damage. Centuries old books were soaked

and

covered with silt and mud. The sight of the shelves in the Biblioteca
Nazionale Centrale di Firenze was heart breaking. No one would have

believed

anything could be saved.
However, hundreds of students and volunteers were enlisted and many

books

were removed from the shelves and dried. Others just dried in the

stacks.

Velum bound volumes, paper and parchment documents that looked like they
were ready to be carted to the dump were later restored by washing in

warm

water and by other very simple methods. In many cases there was more

dried

mud than paper.

Photographs and books or manuscripts, never mind how wet and crumpled

they

may be, if dried immediately before they begin to decay, can later be
cleaned and restored. This later cleaning is quite easy. Books damaged

in

the Arno flood were examined by scanning electron microscopy after
restoration. The micrographs showed traces of mud invisible to the naked
eye. I have pictures of the stacks and damage. If anyone is interested
please contact me off list.

Don

Don Williams
___________

Dr E D F Williams
http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams
Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery
Updated: March 30, 2002


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:50 PM
Subject: Floods, WAS: OT: Manfrotto tripod mini-report




That night I kept having nightmares about having to wade through
floodwater downstairs! First light i looked out and breathed a sigh of
relief to see no appreciable rise. The stake confirmed it.

My mother's house in Cambridge (MA) flooded so badly a couple of years

ago

that it came within a foot of the first-floor joists. He washing machine
was


_floating_ and bumping against the basement ceiling!

They lost a lot of "stuff," including some family heirlooms and old
photographs.

Heat is the weather phenomenon most dangerous to humans, statistically,
but


I'll bet flooding is the chief danger to the survival of historical
artifacts on paper, such as photographs.

--Mike



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