Nice shot. I believe you'll find the collective noun for a group of shags is an "orgy" Simon
-----Original Message----- From: J. C. O'Connell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 20 January 2003 3:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 5 more of those whatyamacallit birds Decided to test my 85-210 F4.5 SMCPZ lens with some TMAX 100 today. To my surprise I spotted 5 more of the same birds resting on a temporary construction divider: http://jcoconnell.com/temp/birds04s.jpg TMAX 100 1/250 @ F9.5 ~180mm setting I can say one thing, this lens is awesome quality. Yes, it's slow, it's bulky ( but not heavy) and it's very old ( early 70's optical design! ). BUT, it's got that legendary Pentax quality. I wouldnt recommend it for anything but bright outdoor use but in that case its great. JCO
