Aren�t they both made by Kino Precision (Kiron, that is)?
All the best!
Raimo
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L�hett�j�: Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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P�iv�: 28. tammikuuta 2003 15:55
Aihe: Re: tokina and vivitar series 1 90mm macros are they really the same


>> an interesting test found
>> http://members.aol.com/olympusom/lenstests/default.htm
>> Tokina AT-X 90mm f/2.5 Macro [snip]
>> Vivitar Series 1 90mm f/2.5 Macro [snip]
>
>Thanks for the info, adphoto.  There are differences in the two
>tests, but I think that the differences (even though they mostly
>"favor" the VS1 version) are fairly small, and probably could fall
>within the range of sample-to-sample variance.
>
>I still maintain that the VS1 90/2.5 Macro and its 1:1 Macro Adapter
>are the same design as the Tokina AT-X 90/2.5 and its 1:1 Macro
>Extender, despite some physical, mechanical, and and cosmetic
>differences. In fact, Paul has suggested that they were both made by
>Tokina.  Certainly, the details of their optics (as published and as
>I measured) appear to be identical.
>
>I have used both versions myself, and I can't see any significant
>difference between them.  See:
>
>VS1 @ 4:1 @ f/8 (without 1:1 Macro Adapter) -
>   http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/v9025/v9025-41-8.jpg
>VS1 @ 2:1 @ f/8 (without 1:1 Macro Adapter) -
>   http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/v9025/v9025-21-8.jpg
>VS1 @ 1:1 @ f/8 (with 1:1 Macro Adapter) -
>   http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/v9025/v9025-11-8.jpg
>AT-X @ 4:1 @ f/8 (without 1:1 Macro Extender) -
>   http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/x9025/x9025-41-8.jpg
>AT-X @ 2:1 @ f/8 (without 1:1 Macro Extender) -
>   http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/x9025/x9025-21-8.jpg
>AT-X @ 1:1 @ f/8 (with 1:1 Macro Extender) -
>   http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/x9025/x9025-11-8.jpg
>
>Despite the similarities, however, it is not surprising that there
>would be at least some small differences - after all, even if they
>were both made by Tokina, the VS1 version was produced basically in
>the late 1970's, while the AT-X version was a product of the 1980's.
>
>Fred
>

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