I think we may be at crossed purposes here.  I was not talking about the
new f1.8(?) big jobbie, but the old and long discontinued f2.8 version.
>From your comment about the 'expensive-looking finish' I guess your
comments relate to the new EX DG lens.

Not that I would denigrate your comments anyway.  I must admit that I
never used the Sigma to take pictures, I was just basing my opinion on
extensive research done before making my 24mm purchase.  The whole web
consensus is that this is a great lens with poor mechanics.

However, if you are talking about the new lens then I am surprised
anyway.  Your comments regarding distortion fly in the face of specific
tests for just that type of thing in Amateur photographer, and is the
first time I have heard it.  Could you have had a bad sample?

I do actually feel the EX lenses are well made though, and that their
build problems are largely in the past and in the consumer lens segment
anyway.  I know many people using the macro lenses and the
70-200/100-300 EX lenses and they have no problems with build.

I hope we do meet up soon and we can have a good debate over a few beers
on this!!!

Rob 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Whicker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 28 January 2003 22:34
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: 3rd party 24mm (was Speaking of M series lenses)
> 
> 
> >Rob Brigham wrote:
> >
> >I would vote for the Sigma 24mm if you want big bang for
> bucks.  There
> is one on ebay at the moment, and I think in general they
> sell for
> �40-�60.  Don't worry whether you get the AF version or not, 
> you will probably be using it for landscapes so will manually 
> focus anyway?
> 
> >Personally I was sorely tempted with this as it is
> exteremely sharp,
> almost a rival for the FA*24.  I decided that flare
> resistance was too
> much of an issue for wide angle landscapes and paid the
> extra money for
> SMC in the end.
> 
> >Mechanically the Sigma does suffer from some problems so
> make sure you
> get a good sample.  It is sooo cheap and sharp that it is 
> probably worth the risk though.
> 
> 
> Rob,
> 
> I hate to disagree with another PDMLer from the UK, because
> we might meet someday!
> 
> However, I think the Sigma is a very bad choice.  Optically,
> it is undeniably sharp, but it has severe barrel distortion
> and a noticeable yellow cast.  The barrel distortion is so 
> severe that this lens might be called a "semi-fisheye".  The 
> yellow cast is so bad that, if we were talking about an old 
> Super-Takumar 50mm f/1.4, we would be shedding tears.  Here 
> is a *brand new* lens that starts with more yellow cast than 
> probably 80% of those particular 'yellowing' Super Takumars 
> have after 30+ years!
> 
> You mentioned the poor build.  Here we agree, and Sigma
> should not be allowed to persuade us that an
> expensive-looking finish can take our attention away from
> the dreadful "workmanship" inside.  The mechanically-driven
> AF versions all seem to be badly made, with many stories of 
> gears stripping after a few months' use, but the manual focus 
> versions are at least a little better in that respect.
> 
> In order to keep my criticism constructive (!), I suggest
> that there are much better alternatives from Tamron
> (Adaptall 2) and Tokina.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 

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