Gregory L. Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I've been looking around lately for telephoto lenses 500mm or longer. With
some modern computer design, glasses, and coatings, I was hoping to at least
find decent but small aperture fixed lenses pretty cheap.  Will I find that
all the truly long telephotos either cost $5000, are mirror lenses, or are
turkeys?

Gregory,
By "small aperture," I assume you mean "large aperture number (f/5.6, f/8),
since you're savvy enough to know that you won't find any f/4 or f/4.5 in
your price range.

The short answer is Yes. None of the 500/8s that litter Ebay is
distinguished. The better third-party lens makers (Sigma, Tamron, Tokina)
have not put much effort into developing 500mm+ prime lenses that are any
good, unless they are reasonably fast and cost an arm and a leg. Sigma makes
a fine 500/4.5, but it costs upward of $2,000. Vivitar made a great 450/4.5
mirror lens, but it shows up on the market just a few times a year and will
cost upward of $500 (more like $800 to $1000) when you find it. A Tamron SP
400/4 in Adaptall K mount with a 1.4X TC would deliver great results as a
560/5.6. will set you back $1000 to $1400 used. I simply don't know of any 

The story changes if you are willing to buy a screwmount lens. A Pentax
Takumar or Super Takumar 500/4.5 meets your specs for about $400 to $500.
Add a K-mount 1.4X TC, and you have a K mount 700/6.3 for about $700. It
won't allow open-aperture metering, but neither did the K-mount version of
this lens.

The German firm of Meyer Optik made a 500/5.6 with interchangeable mounts
for Praktina, Praktica, Exakta bayonet, Pentacon Six, and M42 screwmount.
Weighing 3500 g, it was sold originally as Pentacon, then Meyer Orestegor.
The history is a bit more complicated than this, but basically, look for
Meyer or Pentacon. German Ebay is a good place to find old big glass like
this.

Zoomar and Fuji made some 600/5.6s in M42, but they're hard to find and not
cheap.

Believe it or not, your best deal would be to get a Tamron, Vivitar, or
Soligor telezoom in the range of 120-600 or 130-650. You might also consider
the two-touch Tokina 150-500/5.6 zoom, and a Sigma 170-500 f/5.6-6.3, an
autofocus lens that sells (sold?) new for about $600. I listed specs for
many of these back in December, I think. Search the archives for 120-600.
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