Hi!
        I remember somebody talking about experiments with water-bath intermezzo
in development B&W. I push a lot (mainly HP5+, which is great for
pushing... I can show you frames from 3-stops pushed HP5+, which, when
printed on grade 0 or 1/2 look perfectly normal, although grainy). I think
that the water-bath (where there is some slight development in the shadows
only, but not hightlights) could help me in pushing. From the archives I
remember that the difference btwn normal dev and water-bathed was very
minimal, but could the difference be perhaps more useful when pushing,
where I want to supress the black highlights a bit while developing the
shadows to maximum? I will definitely try it with some test film, but would
like to hear some ideas first. I push in Microphen, and something in Xtol
(although Xtol times for pushing Tmax are just plain stupid. I soup it more
in it, and it still pushes worse than HP5+)

While printing on soft grade usually takes care of the dense highlights, I
need as much shadow detail as I can get. The lighting is pretty contrasty
on most of the concerts, and pushing only makes it worse. So I thought the
water-bath intermezzo might help with the shadows.

In less contrasty situations, I think it would not be needed. The HP5+
pushed 3 stops and very slightly over-exposed, printed at 1/2 or 0 grade is
great there.

Thanks  

_good light_
        -frantisek-

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