Hi Andre:

It is interesting what you say about the K35 f3.5 lens.  I have actually
acquired one recently in a like new condition.  I used it last weekend and
tested it for ghosting pointing the upper frame corner at the rather
brilliant sun (the snow and ice desert of the completely frozen Georgian
Bay) and sure enough a small circular ghost does appear in the lower left
corner.  That is a very small ghost, but nevertheless it is there.  The
performance is still very good indeed compared to other well known lenses
which are low in flare and ghosting like my Nikkor 20 mm f:3.5 which
displays a somewhat larger and more disturbing ghost similarly positioned
within the frame.  My K50 f:1.4 displayed a significant "ankh-like" ghost
under the same conditions - somewhat reminiscent of my Nikkor 50 mm f:1.4.
Still the Pentax ghosting was less disturbing in the viewfinder that the
Nikkor.  I will look carefully at the negatives to see if this has more to
do with the lens or the viewfinder.  For a camera I used the newly acquired
ME Super from Tom.

Cheers,  - Andrew.




-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: March 13, 2003 12:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is flare bad?


>*IF* you have some authority which asserts this to be true and
>describes the mechanism by which this raised "level of light scatter" 
>is reduced by coatings, well then, I and others would like to see it.

The Hasselblad Manual is one of the best book on photography I have 
found (with the Ilford Manual of Photography.  It says (third ed. p 
177):

"When light hits a non-coated glass surface, about 5% is 
reflected..."  etc. We already know the rest of this paragraph as 
Pentax in their multi-coating publicity repeated it many times.  More 
interesting is what follows.

"Of even more concern than the loss of light is what happens to the 
reflected light.  After being reflected, it probably reaches another 
lens surface and is reflected back to another lens or part of the 
lens mount.  The reflected light causes flare -- a haze over the 
image which reduces its contrast.  A thin coating over the lens 
surface reduces light reflection..."  and it goes on to multi-coating 
with which "light transmission is increased and the reduction in 
flare can be significant."

>In my photos, the primary source of "flair" is reflections producing
>ghosts. Even the best multi-coated lenses have some flair of this type 
>in night shots with bright street lights.

The K 35/3.5 (and the Takumar version) is said to be totally 
ghost-free.  A test (Mod or Pop Ph) revealed that shooting directly 
at the sun with it, it's not possible to see any ghost wherever you 
put the sun in the frame.  I tried it and it's true.  I have not 
tried it with multiple night spots but it should respond the same 
way.  This could be the only lens to performs like that though.

>The second largest source of "flair" I
>experience is in the emulsion itself.
>
>For an example of both, see:
http://www.photocritique.net/g/s?zzyHLn-p12195512

What (or where) is the "emulsion flare" in this nice night shot, Bob?

Cheers,

Andre
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