Even cheaper:  Minolta HiMatic F - 2.8 40mm lens, full auto with no manual
overide, manual focus - takes reasonably sharp pics - usually around $25 on
eBay - a bit smaller than the Canonet.

Another expensive one:  Leica CL - 2.0 40mm Summicron C lens is sharp and
contrasty as hell, ttl metered fully manual - I don't know how it compares to
the Ricoh, but around $500US on eBay seems the going price for users.  A teeny
bit bigger than the Minolta.

Clive evans wrote:

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> two solutions:
> CHEAP
> 40mm f1.9 pancake lens attached to [well part of really] Canonet G111
> rangefinder, $50-$100 on Ebay or $50 more for a black one like
> mine............fast quiet super lens takes your Pentax 49mm filters with a
> 48/49 stepup ring.
> EXPENSIVE
> Ricoh GR-1, superb bly built pont and shhot with full manual override with
> a 28mm f2.8 that is incredible[also takes 30.5 filters]
> Clive
> Antibes
> France

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