It was rape, in any case, whether the boy consented or not because of his
age. Whether she consented or not, I suspect he will still be charged with
negligent homicide or manslaughter. I doubt he intended to kill her, but
he'll have a difficult time proving he didn't help her get there.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Caveman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?


> Was the boy knowing what he was doing, wanted it and consented to it ? I
> suspect that the case you mentioned was about rape.
>
> Treena wrote:
> > We had a case a couple of years back that sounds similar - two men
drugged a
> > 12-year-old boy, then sodomized him. Because of the way he was lying and
the
> > large amount of drugs in his system, he died of positional asphyxiation.
> > They were charged with homicide. If she was heavily under the influence
and
> > was lying in such a way that she couldn't breathe well, it could
definitely
> > happen even though it would be unintentional.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Caveman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 1:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?
> >
> >
> >
> >>It takes lawyers to make things complicate. I have two questions that
> >>have no clear answer there:
> >>- did she die of Valium, of sex or of too many photos of her being taken
> >>- did she know what she was doing when taking Valium and was that
> >>consensual or against her will.
> >>
> >>Otherwise anyone should make sure he doesn't receive any guests in his
> >>home, or have it arranged as a psycho cell with pillowed walls, and keep
> >>the guests in straighjackets so they can't harm themselves. And they
> >>still can kill themselves by refusing to breath or something.
> >>
> >>Bruce Rubenstein wrote:
> >>
> >>>http://www.roanoke.com/roatimes/news/story150854.html
> >>>
> >>>BR
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

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