I agree with you, Tom.

I guess one of the points I was trying to make in my last post, is that the line
between Pro and Amateur is so blurred, that it renders either term almost
meaningless in many situations.

Personally, I know (very casually) a fellow who is an AP photojournalist.  He
also freelances on the side.  I have no idea what percentage of his income comes
from photography, but I'd think it's likely 100%.  He's a pro.

I have another friend who has a bit of equipment, and takes a fair number of
photos.  She's not a very good photographer (which is beside the point <g>), but
she really enjoys the pastime.  She's never sold, nor tried to sell a
photograph.  She's an amateur.

Between those two extremes:  who knows?  But then, who really cares?  Makes for
a good debate here from time to time, but that's about it (looks like this one
will lie dormant, though <g>).

I gotta tell you, though, Tom, you really missed the boat on your definition of
a Pro Camera:  it's a 35mm (including digital) SLR that says either "Canon" or
"Nikon" on it!  <vbg>

cheers,
frank

T Rittenhouse wrote:

> Ciao,
> Graywolf
> http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > I think, in common English parlance, a professional photographer is one
> who
> > derives his primary income from photography.  An amateur is everyone else.
> So,
> > an amateur is now one who does something and does not derive their primary
> > income from that activity.
>
> I have always had a problem with that definition. Let's see if some poor
> bozo like me makes $7000 selling photographs part time then by this
> difinition he is a pro. Now if some rich guy, works at it 80 hours a week
> and makes $100 - 150,000 a year, but has an income from investments of say
> 1/2 million a year, he is a amateur?
>
> Now to me, if you do photography with the intent to make money, then you are
> a pro. Yes, even if no one buys your photos. That just means you are a
> unsuccessful pro. If you do photography for your own reasons and never sell
> them, then you are a amateur. Can you be both an amateur and a pro? The old
> Olympic rules excepted, I don't see why not.
>
> So what is a professional camera. Well, really, in my opinion, it is a
> camera designed to take the day in, day out grind of professional use for a
> reasonalble length of time. In other words, durablity makes the difference.
> Of course, in advertising speak it means, made for suckers who can not
> figure this out for theirselves.

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