At least one - me.  Gossen Lunasix bought used last year, for use with all
my 30+ year old cameras!

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Apilado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: Cripple your K & M lenses for the Cripple Mount


> How many PDMLers own a hand held meter?
>
> Jim A.
>
> > From: "T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:27:29 -0400
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: Cripple your K & M lenses for the Cripple Mount
> > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:27:43 -0400
> >
> > Well, I can tell you you can use your M lens on an *istD. There is no
> > metering because the camera has no mechanical coupling to tell it what
> > aperture is set on the lens. But if you are willing to use your
hand-held
> > meter (or you could use trial and error, checking it with the LED image)
it
> > works fine. All you have to do is set the custom funtion that allows
shutter
> > release out of A mode. The default is set so idiots can not mess up by
> > making a non-metered exposure. It also worked in program mode with my
3rd
> > party KA lens, no problem.  The *istD is a very neat camera. It has the
best
> > viewfinder I have seen in a DSLR (I have handled the D100, S2, D60, &
> > EOS1D), it is about the same apparent size and brightness as the MZ
series
> > 35mm cameras (remember the sensor is smaller than 35mm so the viewfinder
> > needs higher magnification to give the same apparent size). The
prototype
> > available for us to play with has a problem with power management. That
will
> > be fixed in the production cameras. I think it is the best of the sub
$2000
> > DSLRs. At $1699 I think they are going to sell faster than they can make
> > them.
> >
> > I am home tonight from GFM because my air mattress suffered blowout last
> > night. Living only 30 minutes away I decided I liked the idea of a soft
bed
> > and a hot shower better than the hard cold floor of my Blazer. Got to
get up
> > early and return in the morning so I don't miss anything.
> >
> > I hear all you folks to the north have been having quite an adventure.
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Graywolf
> > http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jonathan Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Pentax Discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 10:33 AM
> > Subject: Cripple your K & M lenses for the Cripple Mount
> >
> >
> >> Um,
> >>
> >> I'm probably not the first one to think of this, but
> >> if you have a K or M lens that you just ~must~ use
> >> with the *ist D, why not remove the aperture coupling
> >> arm??? It would effectively turn it into a manual
> >> diaphragm lens. Of course it would be a shame to do
> >> this to a really nice lens like the K-15/3.5 or
> >> K-18/3.5, but I would have no qualms "crippling" a
> >> K-55/1.8 for a fine 82.5mm portrait lens that is known
> >> for being a bit soft wide open :-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:26:47 +0200
> >> From: Arnold Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Re: istdee
> >> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii;
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> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >>
> >> The *ist D does not have the aperture simulator
> >> coupling ring (you find
> >> its coupling lever at 2 o'clock on your LX) that is
> >> needed so that the
> >> camera knows how far the lens stops down during
> >> exposure. Without this
> >> ring, and with any lens not in "A" position,
> >> open-aperture measurement
> >> is not possible. Stop-down metering is possible with
> >> srew mount lenses
> >> or lenses with fully manual aperture like the
> >> K500/f4.5 or the
> >> K28/f3.5.
> >> Stop-down metering could also be possible with all
> >> lenses, if Pentax
> >> had
> >> programmed the *ist D's meter to work when DOF preview
> >> is activated.
> >> Unfortunately, Pentax did something else: In aperture
> >> priority mode the
> >> meter works but the aperture  always stays fully open.
> >> In manual mode
> >> the meter does not work but the lens stops down during
> >> exposure.
> >>
> >> Arnold
> >>
> >> Steve Larson schrieb:
> >>
> >>> Looks to me like it has the aperture activator
> >> mechanism. I saved that
> >> jpeg of the istdee and enlarged it with ACDSee, it`s
> >> about 8 0`clock,
> >> looks just like the one in my LX. If that is indeed a
> >> mechanical
> >> actuator I don`t understand
> >>> why a K or M lenses will not work. Steve Larson
> >> Redondo Beach,
> >> California
> >>
> >>
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