Well, I thought "proof" is a limited run of coins minted
primarily as collector items.  Sort of like the LX-2000. They
would be expected to be mint, of course.

And the <sarcastic mode> was meant to be humorous, I mean,
people I know don't talk like that.  And going out of my way to
make it clear I was being sarcastic, I thought would be taken to
be in fun.  It certainly was more apparent than a smiley face. 
But, I guess one man's sense of humor is another man's rudeness.
--Tom


Chris Brogden wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Tom Rittenhouse wrote:
> 
> > Well, no.  Mint comes from coin collecting.  It means just like
> > it came from the mint with no signs of wear what so ever, even
> > the little rough edges from the stamping press are not worn.
> 
> If you're talking about coin collecting, then even that has a grade above
> mint called "proof."  Proof is fresh from the mint, absolutely
> perfect.  This could easily be the effect that the seller was trying to
> convey by saying Mint+.  Personally, anything Mint or over I assume to be
> in perfect shape.  Even if we all agree what the terms mean (not going to
> happen), then we'll still have different opinions as to judging a lens
> Exc+ or Mint-.
> 
> > So why the sarcasm?  If we all do not use the terms the same way
> > they become meaningless.  How can you tell what you are buying
> > if mint means a few scratches to one seller, and to another that
> > it still works, rather than what you would expect it to.
> > Believe me a serious collector that paid mint prices for a
> > scratched camera would be very angry, and so would I.
> > --Tom
> 
> I think the sarcasm was rude.  What you say in this paragraph is logical
> and makes sense.  I would much rather have seen this paragraph instead of
> the sarcasm as your first reaction to the post.  One is rude; the other,
> constructive.

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