Nope - the last VW Beetles were produced in Mexico - and the production ended only a couple of weeks ago. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
-----Alkuper�inen viesti----- L�hett�j�: T Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> P�iv�: 03. syyskuuta 2003 16:46 Aihe: Re: OT: Car keys - WAS Survival Kit >All very true, Cotty. But then by the same standards the Jeep dates back to >1941 and has been in production longer than the Land Rover. Also as Bill >Robb says the VW bug simply moved production to Bazil when aircooled engines >became evironmentally unfriendly and continued production there until very >recently. That makes the comments in the article that started all this >simply wrong, the Land Rover has not been in production longer than any >other car. However, I have to agree with the other part of the article a DB5 >with the Zagoto body is still one of the most sexy sports cars of all time. > >Ciao, >Graywolf >---------------------------------------------------------- > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:46 AM >Subject: Re: OT: Car keys - WAS Survival Kit > > >> >The >> >first Land Rover (80) was a rebodied US Military Jeep. The Landrover 88 >was >> >the first with its own chassis. The Defender is a (somewhat) look alike >that >> >has nothing in common with the original. By that standard the current >Jeep >> >has be in production since 1941 >> >> Graywolf, >> >> A few points of clarification sir. Yes, the very first LR was based on a >> jeep chassis (note no capitalisation of jeep - didn't become a trade name >> until much later). But when it went into production, the chassis were >> made by Rover to their own design, based on the jeep chassis. In that >> respect the jeep chassi was used as the basis of the LR chassis. >> >> I'm not sure what you mean by 'with its own chassis'. The Series 1 was >> built using its won chassis. If you took the body off a Series 1 LR and >> tried to mount a jeep body onto it with no modifications, it would not >> fit. In my book that means the LR had its own chassis. >> >> The Defender is almost identical in design,both in body and chassis to >> the originals. The major differences are: coil springs instead of leafs, >> and full-time 4WD instead of part-time 4WD, although the earliest S1s did >> have full-time 4WD I believe. The way the body is designed is the same: >> bulkhead seperating engine bay and driver, rear body tub, aluminium >> panels. Sure there are things like power assisted brakes / steering / ABS >> / etc but these owe nothing to the original design - they have changed >> over the years without the design changing at all. This makes for >> difficult situations - shoe-horning the V8 into the relatively small >> engine bay is always tricky. Heck, my Defender had Electronic Traction >> Control the same as the top of the line Range Rover, but I'll bet it was >> prised into place ;-) >> >> The Land Rover owes its heritage to the Willys jeep, it is true and >> undisputed, and respectfully acknowledged, but after the best parts of >> the design were incorporated into the LR, it then became a vehicle in its >> own right and evolved from there. >> >> Best, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> Cotty >> >> >> ___/\__ >> || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche >> ||=====| www.macads.co.uk/snaps >> _____________________________ >> Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk >> > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.514 / Virus Database: 312 - Release Date: 8/28/03 > >
