Yes I do, but you forget one thing. People have talents. The very first time I stood in front of a choir I simply knew what to do. Nobody told me, it just came out of me as if I had never done anything else. Of course I had to learn things and develop that talent, but as a photographer I find I have the talent to 'see' good shots, but lack the urge to learn and develop. Once I've seen the shot, that's it, I'm done. All that work afterwards downgrades that moment immensely for me.
Choral music never bores me, photography does. Too many photographs are alike. Maybe the variation in music is bigger. Also, the human factor may be bigger: singing and conducting is something you do yourself. It's as personal as it can get. :-) Paul Delcour > From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:39:30 -0400 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: OT: Pentax Image in Outdoor Photographer > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:40:04 -0400 > > Boy are you in trouble. The thing about digital to the serious > photographer is it brings all those controls back into his hands. To do > good digital photos you have to have more skills, not less. > > Face it to 99% of the people who take photos art does not enter the > equation at all. The other 1% need quite a bit of technical skill to > make the medium say what they want it to say. > > The interesting thing is that while the pros are dumping their darkroom > stuff, many amateurs are setting up darkrooms (especially for B&W work) > because there is a certain joy to doing things the old way. One can in > fact set up a pretty nice darkroom for the price of an istD. > > I am at the level in music that you seem to be in photography. I took > two, two long years, wow, of lessons and still can not get what I want > out of my mandolin. People who actually play them well tell me it will > take 10 years of practice to get good at it. I may not have 10 years > left, so I do not try too hard anymore. Of course I could program any > music I want into MIDI and let the computer play it. Somehow I don't > feel it is the same thing. > > Do you see the parallels in what I am saying? > > > > Paul Delcour wrote: > >> Thanks Kenneth for your explanation. >> >> I may sound amateurish, but I'm the one who just sees a shot and takes it. I >> hate having to do a lot afterwards, be it in a darkroom or in a digital >> room. That's why I took to slides a certain period, they just gave me what I >> saw. Looking back I can all my mistakes all too clearly as well. What I >> certainly do not like about photgraphy is the amount of technique I need to >> get a picture rigt. I feel the technique is more a burden than a blessing. >> As a choir conductor I do not sense any limits like this. As a pianist I did >> however. My arms and fingers didn't want to do what I did. The piano was in >> my way, as are a lot of photographical technical aspects. The absurd limits >> of a film for instance. I hope that digital solves this all in due course. >> >> This sounds more negative than it really is, but as I'm picking up my >> photography now I do encounter the very same things that made me stop twcie >> before. So, I'm not a natural photographer I guess. >> >> :-) >> >> Paul Delcour >> >> >>> From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 18:00:44 -0400 >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: Re: OT: Pentax Image in Outdoor Photographer >>> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 18:00:47 -0400 >>> >>> Paul, this image was submitted digitally to Outdoor Photographer. I used >>> Photoshop to set white and dark points, clean dust spots with the clone >>> stamp, apply a little unsharp mask, a slight crop and then size the image. >>> The Image as printed pretty much agrees with the original slide. It is as >>> straight forward as I can make it. >>> This is pretty much the way I handle all my images that I either post or >>> print. >>> >>> Kenneth Waller >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Paul Delcour" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 5:37 AM >>> Subject: Re: OT: Pentax Image in Outdoor Photographer >>> >>> >>> >>>> Kenneth, >>>> >>>> really wonderful picture. I wander what you did do in Photshop as you say >>>> the image wasn't manipulated or anything. How straightforward a shoot was >>>> this? >>>> >>>> :-) >>>> >>>> Paul Delcour >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 06:50:57 +0200 >>>>> To: Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> Subject: Re: OT: Pentax Image in Outdoor Photographer >>>>> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 02:50:11 -0400 >>>>> >>>>> Hi! >>>>> >>>>> Here's the correct URL: >>>>> http://pug.komkon.org/01jul/IceFlwer.html >>>>> >>>>> Congratulations. >>>>> >>>>> Boris >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ===8<==============Original message text=============== >>>>> KW> Well, after being advised a year ago that an image of mine was >>> >>> selected >>> >>>>> for >>>>> KW> publication in Outdoor Photographer, "Your Gallery" section, it >>> >>> finally >>> >>>>> KW> appeared in the October 2003 issue. Check out pages 80/81 of that >>> >>> issue - >>> >>>>> KW> the "Your Gallery" section. I've posted this previously to the PUG >>>>> KW> (http://pug.komkon.org/01jul/IceFlwr.html). >>>>> KW> I also sent them a paragraph about the capture of this image but >>> >>> they >>> >>>>> chose >>>>> KW> to write their own. >>>>> KW> They did to use this image previously as a background for an story >>> >>> on >>> >>>>> KW> "Keeping Cool", >>>>> KW> in the June 2003 issue of Outdoor Photographer. >>>>> >>>>> KW> Kenneth Waller >>>>> >>>>> ===8<===========End of original message text=========== >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> > > -- > graywolf > http://graywolfphoto.com > >
