Sounds good.  You're person #5.  If we get our 10, then I'll let you know
what to do.

Cheers,

chris


On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Ryan Lee wrote:

> Hey Chris,
>
> That's neat, count me in then!
>
> Ryan
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 2:56 AM
> Subject: Re: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around
>
>
> >
> > About 30 seconds of thought, actually.  :)
> >
> > Well, since we're having difficulty getting 10 people, you're welcome to
> > take part, provided you reimburse the person who ships it to you for the
> > difference between international and domestic shipping.
> >
> > Off to work now,
> >
> > chris
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Ryan Lee wrote:
> >
> > > Sounds like a wonderful idea Chris.. I'd pay $25 bucks for it.. pity I'm
> in
> > > Australia and thus am not eligible though..
> > >
> > > Rgds,
> > > Ryan
> > >
> > > PS. I'm amazed by how much thought went into it!
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 1:12 AM
> > > Subject: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Here's the info again, since some people missed it the first time.
> > > >
> > > > chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to gauge the interest in this, so let me know what you
> think.
> > > > Here's the idea...
> > > >
> > > > Assuming that enough people are interested to make it worthwhile, I'll
> buy
> > > > one of the new Pentax FAJ 18-35mm f4-5.6 AL zoom lenses.  This is the
> lens
> > > > designed for the *istD, but it also works perfectly--as a true 18-35mm
> > > > lens--on Pentax film bodies as well.  NOTE: This lens has no aperture
> > > > ring, and so it will only stop down on Pentax cameras that set the
> > > > aperture from the body and not the lens.
> > > >
> > > > Every person who signs up to try out the lens and is approved will
> have
> > > > the lens to try for a week before passing it on to the next person on
> the
> > > > list.  To cover the cost of the lens and shipping, I'll need a $25.00
> US
> > > > ($35.00 CAN) payment from every person interested in trying this lens
> for
> > > > a week.  I'm not trying to make money from this, but I don't want to
> lose
> > > > any, either.  We'll need 10 people to make this viable.  I have no
> idea
> > > > how many people will want to try this lens out.  If we don't get 10, I
> > > > can't afford to go through with it.  If we get more then 10, then the
> > > > pass-around will be limited to the first 10 people who signed up.
> > > >
> > > > Now here's the good part.  After the 10 people have each had a week to
> > > > play with the lens, the last person will ship it back to me.  We'll
> have a
> > > > random selection process, and one person out of the 10 (I won't be
> > > > eligible) will win the lens.  I'll pay for shipping the lens to the
> first
> > > > person on the list and to the winner, but I ask that everyone who
> > > > participates pay for INSURED, TRACKABLE shipping to the next person on
> the
> > > > list.  Please insure it for $250 US/$350 CAN.  So, for the price of
> $25.00
> > > > US plus shipping, you get to try out a new and funky lens for a week,
> and
> > > > get a 1/10 chance to win it.
> > > >
> > > > To minimize the risk inherent in this, only PDMLers in Canada and the
> U.S.
> > > > will be eligible.  You can reply to this message on the PDML if you're
> > > > interested in participating, and I'll send you an off-list reply to
> let
> > > > you know if you can.  I don't want to be too restrictive, but I'd
> prefer
> > > > to limit this either to people I know from my time here, or people who
> > > > have a decent posting history.  If I recognize your name or can find
> some
> > > > posts from you in the archives, that'll be fine, but if you just
> joined
> > > > yesterday it'll be harder, unless you have a good eBay feedback rating
> or
> > > > something.  For anyone who's wondering about trusting me, I joined the
> > > > PDML about five years ago, have an eBay feedback rating of 132 (100%
> > > > positive) under the username "chrisbrogden", and have bought/sold
> stuff
> > > > from/to several PDMLers before.
> > > >
> > > > Hopefully this goes without saying, but please take good care of the
> lens
> > > > while you have it.  Use a filter if there's a chance of scratching the
> > > > glass, and do us the courtesy of paying to have the lens repaired if
> it is
> > > > damaged (your home insurance might cover that).  That being said, the
> > > > winner should expect some minor cosmetic wear to the barrel, though
> > > > hopefully none to the glass.
> > > >
> > > > I'm open to suggestions about the random selection process.  I could
> just
> > > > draw a name, but to keep it more public I'm thinking that the 10
> people
> > > > could each email me 5 numbers: one from 1-9, one from 10-19, one from
> > > > 20-29, one from 30-39, and one from 40-49.  Then, after all the
> numbers
> > > > are in, I'll use the next Lotto 6-49 drawing to determine the winner.
> > > > We'll start with the 0-9 numbers.  If just one person picked a 0-9
> number
> > > > from the winning ticket, they get the lens.  If no one did, then we'll
> go
> > > > to the 20-29 numbers and try again, etc.  If, say, three people pick a
> > > > winning 0-9 number, then I'll look at the 20-29 numbers, and so on
> until
> > > > we're down to one person.  If, by some fluke, more than two people are
> > > > still in the running, then we'll wait 3/4 days until the next draw
> (every
> > > > Wed/Sat).  If we're down to two people, then paper/rock/scissors
> should
> > > > settle the issue.  :)  It's not as complicated as it sounds, but if
> anyone
> > > > has other suggestions for 100% random and publically-visable methods,
> I'm
> > > > open to hearing them.
> > > >
> > > > So... let the sign-up begin.  First come, first served.  I won't be
> able
> > > > to buy the lens until I've received all 10 payments, but I'll have it
> in
> > > > the mail 1-2 days after that.  You can pay with PayPal, BidPay, cash,
> or a
> > > > money order negotiable in Canada.  (Please note that not all money
> orders
> > > > from the U.S. are negotiable in Canada, so please make sure that
> you're
> > > > sending an international one.)
> > > >
> > > > If this goes smoothly, I'm thinking that it could be a fun thing to do
> > > > with some of the more interesting or obscure used lenses.  Let me know
> if
> > > > you have any thoughts or suggestions.  In the meantime, if you're
> > > > interested in the 18-35mm pass-around, reply to this email!
> > > >
> > > > chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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