Sounds good. You're person #5. If we get our 10, then I'll let you know what to do.
Cheers, chris On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Ryan Lee wrote: > Hey Chris, > > That's neat, count me in then! > > Ryan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 2:56 AM > Subject: Re: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around > > > > > > About 30 seconds of thought, actually. :) > > > > Well, since we're having difficulty getting 10 people, you're welcome to > > take part, provided you reimburse the person who ships it to you for the > > difference between international and domestic shipping. > > > > Off to work now, > > > > chris > > > > > > > > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Ryan Lee wrote: > > > > > Sounds like a wonderful idea Chris.. I'd pay $25 bucks for it.. pity I'm > in > > > Australia and thus am not eligible though.. > > > > > > Rgds, > > > Ryan > > > > > > PS. I'm amazed by how much thought went into it! > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 1:12 AM > > > Subject: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's the info again, since some people missed it the first time. > > > > > > > > chris > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to gauge the interest in this, so let me know what you > think. > > > > Here's the idea... > > > > > > > > Assuming that enough people are interested to make it worthwhile, I'll > buy > > > > one of the new Pentax FAJ 18-35mm f4-5.6 AL zoom lenses. This is the > lens > > > > designed for the *istD, but it also works perfectly--as a true 18-35mm > > > > lens--on Pentax film bodies as well. NOTE: This lens has no aperture > > > > ring, and so it will only stop down on Pentax cameras that set the > > > > aperture from the body and not the lens. > > > > > > > > Every person who signs up to try out the lens and is approved will > have > > > > the lens to try for a week before passing it on to the next person on > the > > > > list. To cover the cost of the lens and shipping, I'll need a $25.00 > US > > > > ($35.00 CAN) payment from every person interested in trying this lens > for > > > > a week. I'm not trying to make money from this, but I don't want to > lose > > > > any, either. We'll need 10 people to make this viable. I have no > idea > > > > how many people will want to try this lens out. If we don't get 10, I > > > > can't afford to go through with it. If we get more then 10, then the > > > > pass-around will be limited to the first 10 people who signed up. > > > > > > > > Now here's the good part. After the 10 people have each had a week to > > > > play with the lens, the last person will ship it back to me. We'll > have a > > > > random selection process, and one person out of the 10 (I won't be > > > > eligible) will win the lens. I'll pay for shipping the lens to the > first > > > > person on the list and to the winner, but I ask that everyone who > > > > participates pay for INSURED, TRACKABLE shipping to the next person on > the > > > > list. Please insure it for $250 US/$350 CAN. So, for the price of > $25.00 > > > > US plus shipping, you get to try out a new and funky lens for a week, > and > > > > get a 1/10 chance to win it. > > > > > > > > To minimize the risk inherent in this, only PDMLers in Canada and the > U.S. > > > > will be eligible. You can reply to this message on the PDML if you're > > > > interested in participating, and I'll send you an off-list reply to > let > > > > you know if you can. I don't want to be too restrictive, but I'd > prefer > > > > to limit this either to people I know from my time here, or people who > > > > have a decent posting history. If I recognize your name or can find > some > > > > posts from you in the archives, that'll be fine, but if you just > joined > > > > yesterday it'll be harder, unless you have a good eBay feedback rating > or > > > > something. For anyone who's wondering about trusting me, I joined the > > > > PDML about five years ago, have an eBay feedback rating of 132 (100% > > > > positive) under the username "chrisbrogden", and have bought/sold > stuff > > > > from/to several PDMLers before. > > > > > > > > Hopefully this goes without saying, but please take good care of the > lens > > > > while you have it. Use a filter if there's a chance of scratching the > > > > glass, and do us the courtesy of paying to have the lens repaired if > it is > > > > damaged (your home insurance might cover that). That being said, the > > > > winner should expect some minor cosmetic wear to the barrel, though > > > > hopefully none to the glass. > > > > > > > > I'm open to suggestions about the random selection process. I could > just > > > > draw a name, but to keep it more public I'm thinking that the 10 > people > > > > could each email me 5 numbers: one from 1-9, one from 10-19, one from > > > > 20-29, one from 30-39, and one from 40-49. Then, after all the > numbers > > > > are in, I'll use the next Lotto 6-49 drawing to determine the winner. > > > > We'll start with the 0-9 numbers. If just one person picked a 0-9 > number > > > > from the winning ticket, they get the lens. If no one did, then we'll > go > > > > to the 20-29 numbers and try again, etc. If, say, three people pick a > > > > winning 0-9 number, then I'll look at the 20-29 numbers, and so on > until > > > > we're down to one person. If, by some fluke, more than two people are > > > > still in the running, then we'll wait 3/4 days until the next draw > (every > > > > Wed/Sat). If we're down to two people, then paper/rock/scissors > should > > > > settle the issue. :) It's not as complicated as it sounds, but if > anyone > > > > has other suggestions for 100% random and publically-visable methods, > I'm > > > > open to hearing them. > > > > > > > > So... let the sign-up begin. First come, first served. I won't be > able > > > > to buy the lens until I've received all 10 payments, but I'll have it > in > > > > the mail 1-2 days after that. You can pay with PayPal, BidPay, cash, > or a > > > > money order negotiable in Canada. (Please note that not all money > orders > > > > from the U.S. are negotiable in Canada, so please make sure that > you're > > > > sending an international one.) > > > > > > > > If this goes smoothly, I'm thinking that it could be a fun thing to do > > > > with some of the more interesting or obscure used lenses. Let me know > if > > > > you have any thoughts or suggestions. In the meantime, if you're > > > > interested in the 18-35mm pass-around, reply to this email! > > > > > > > > chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

