Hi Shel,

Actually, I heard it was a covert as covert can be. Weegee apparently used
an IR filter over his flash (opaque to the natural eye) and IR film, so it
was more than likely noone knew a photo had been taken. Here's a link to
some info http://photonotes.org/articles/ir-myths/#dark - great site, albeit
Canon oriented.

:)
Ryan


From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> First, Weegee used flash, and these kids in the movie theater knew that
> their
> photo was taken.  It's possible, considering the size and obvious nature
> of
> Weegee's equipment, that the photo was agreed to or even planned
> beforehand, or
> that these kids, seeing the camera, decided to play towards it.  Of
> course,
> that's just an assumption, a guess.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: The morality of taking a photograph (Long and if you've got
time to pass) :)


> Hi Ryan ...
>
> There was a point in one of my comments to a response where I was about
> to bring
> up Weegee, but chose to go in a different direction.  However, since you
> brought
> up Weegee and his style of photography, I'd like to suggest that the
> photo you
> pointed us to is not as voyeuristic as you make it seem, and that has to
> do with
> several factors.
>
> First, Weegee used flash, and these kids in the movie theater knew that
> their
> photo was taken.  It's possible, considering the size and obvious nature
> of
> Weegee's equipment, that the photo was agreed to or even planned
> beforehand, or
> that these kids, seeing the camera, decided to play towards it.  Of
> course,
> that's just an assumption, a guess.
>
> In addition, at the time the photo was taken, people generally were less
> up
> tight about being photographed.  There was less fear in the world,
> people's
> motives weren't automatically suspect as they are so often today, and
> being
> photographed was still a relatively new and exciting proposition for
> many
> people, especially young people.  Speaking for myself, in those days,
> when Dad
> got out the camera, it was an event, and we all wanted to participate.
>
> IMO, a more voyeuristic Weegee shot is this one:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/weegee.html
>
> Please forgive the poor quality as it was taken from a small book, and
> one hand
> was needed to hold open the pages while the other held the camera.
>
> Here we have an almost naked (fat) guy sleeping outside his apartment of
> the
> fire escape.  He never knew the photo was taken (again, assuming it
> wasn't
> posed), and, to some eyes, it may be quite unflattering.  Not for me,
> for it
> brings up nice memories of NYC in the late 1940's and early 1950's, and
> the
> times I spent on the fire escape outside my grandparent's apartment.  A
> lot of
> people spent time on the fire escapes during the hot summer months.
>
> kind regards,
>
> shel
>
> Ryan Lee wrote:
>
>
> > I think the next most relevant photo (to Shel's) to bring up for the
sake of
> > discussion would be the infamous one Weegee did of the two lovers in the
> > palace theatre making out.
> > http://www.1earthmedia.com/photography/weegee.html That one's as
voyeuristic
> > as it gets, with the IR flash filter technique.
> >
>
>


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