No. None. No exceptions. We are all adults here, or at least we should be.
It's time we (all people) accept responsibility for our person and our
actions in the public arena - that they are public. But you say, "There are
children out there!" Yes, and they have parents and guardians to accept this
responsibility for them until they can accept it for themselves. There is no
privacy in the public arena. Stop whining. Get over it. Get used to it.

> a) a pic of a teen walking into an abortion clinic
Don't get me started on women contemplating... this. You will not like what
I have to say. This is not the arena for it. At any rate, we are all adults
here, or at least we should be. It's time we (all people) accept
responsibility for our person and our actions in the public arena - that
they are public.

> b) pics of people leaving a gay bar or a brothel or adult bookstore
> c) inebriated folks using the great outdoors for a bathroom

We are all adults here, or at least we should be. It's time we (all people)
accept responsibility for our person and our actions in the public arena -
that they are public.

> See, judgement[sic], denigration...
> more judgement[sic]... more denigration...

Damn right. These are my opinions. I expressed them. Stop whining. Get over
it. Get used to it.

Regards,
Bob...
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From: "Robert Gonzalez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Bob Blakely wrote:
> > 1. It is never immoral and should never be illegal to freeze an instant
(any
> > instant) in time of any one or thing seen in a public place. There is
> > clearly no expectation of privacy in the public arena.
> >
> Don't you think there have to be exceptions to this?  I'm sure everyone
> has seen the wedding picture of the bouquet being thrown at some women
> and one of the women's top comes off when she jumps up to catch the
> bouquet, exposing her top a little more than she would like in public.
> While this was seen by a small number of the public, do you think that
> she had the expectation of this being plastered all over the internet?
> Similarly, I don't believe that *every* public situation, esp
> embarrassing ones come with any expectation of mass publication.  I can
> name a few "instances" that can have massive consequences:
> a) a pic of a teen walking into an abortion clinic
> b) pics of people leaving a gay bar or a brothel or adult bookstore
> c) inebriated folks using the great outdoors for a bathroom
>
So
> > 2. The presentation of truth clearly available to the public is never
> > immoral. It is simply the truth.
> >
> An individual looking at something or even a few individuals seeing
> something does not mean that a subject gives permission to the whole
> world to see them, esp if its in an unflattering manner.  People can't
> live in a cave to avoid others looking at them or judging them.  But if
> they expect a certain level of privacy when going out in public, for
> whatever reason, this should be respected.
>
> > 3. Because something is unflattering, even unsympathetic doesn't mean
it's
> > unkind or inappropriate. Some folks need to know the truth, whether to
do
> > something about whatever it is or learn to live with it with grace.
> >
> They may know the truth, but may not be prepared for the whole world to
> know as well.
>
> > 4. Avoiding the elephant in the middle of the living room does no one
any
> > good and can actually cause harm.
> >
> The opposite can cause just as much harm also.  Is it ok for an
> overweight child to be taunted by his classmates?
>
> > 5. You are not denigrating the subject. If denigration is involved (and
I
> > don't believe it is) she is doing it to herself.
> >
> Shouldn't that be her opinion?
>
> > 6. Not all things that cause (or could cause) pain are unkind.
> >
> > 7. Your job is to depict the truth. Period.
> >
> > 8. She looks like three pigs fighting under a blanket.
> >
> See, judgement, denigration...
>
> > 9. I bet that's a diet drink she has there - or perhaps a new
prescription
> > for her glasses.
> >
> more judgement... more denigration...

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