> > In the mainframe days systems analysis, programing, and coding were all > different jobs. Now-a-days I understand they are usually combined. Coding was > the grunt work. Yes, the term tends to be used derogatorily these days, unless > you are talking about microcoding. Everyone who has written workable machine > code (not assember code) raise their hand.
Been there. Done that. Got the T-shirt. Machine code, assembler, and autcode. Nowadays I don't program in anything lower-level than C. Machines are so much faster (and bigger), and compilers and libraries are so much better, that apart from a few very specialised OS routines (and some of the library routines themselves) there's no real point.

