Interesting! I guess the answer must be quality control. I have printed pictures up to 
A3 size (15.5"x11") including close and distant detail and have been very impressed. 
The slide was scanned on a nikon 4000.
I must have a good sample. 
Nick.

-----Original Message-----
    From: "William Johnson"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    Sent: 27/01/04 15:11:03
    To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    Subject: Re: My experience: Vivitar 19mm
    
      Hi,
    
      I was going to stay out of this thread this time (the subject has come up
    before) as it had seemed I'm the only one with a mediocre impression of the
    Vivitar 19mm.  Ryan's experiences mirror my own, flarey (it's biggest
    problem imo) and soft in the corners, at least to f/11.  I haven't tried the
    Mir but I can certainly attest that the Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye is a vastly
    superior lens in these respects.
    
      William in Utah.
    
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Ryan Charron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 7:10 AM
      Subject: Re: My experience: Vivitar 19mm
    
    
      > Hi Graywolf,
      >
      > I don't want to argue with others here, but this is my
      > experience.
      > I owned a Vivitar 19mm f3.8 for years and was quite
      > happy with it, until I compared it to another lens. My
      > advice to you is: Don't buy it! It only sharpens up
      > stopped way down and even then, it's not that great
      > especially in the corners it really sucks.
      > It's a piece of garbage compared to the Russian
      > MC Mir-20M 20mm f/3.5 Lens.
      > When I first bought the MC Mir-20M, I could tell the
      > difference
      > on the NEGATIVE, between the two lenses. When I
      > magnified with Photoshop, I was absolutely Stunned at
      > the difference. So, I quickly sold my Vivitar.
      > I have since purchased a Pentax FA 20m f2.8 (I wanted
      > a k mount wide angle instead of a screw mount) and I
      > did some
      > comparison shots. I was surprised at how good the
      > Mir-20M was even compared to the Pentax. Just about as
      > sharp, almost as good even in the corners, flares more
      > though under certain circumstances because it's not as
      > well coated as the Pentax and it has a large glass
      > front. The Mir-20m is a lower contrast lens than the
      > Pentax, but it takes awesome photos.
      > Perhaps my Vivitar was a bad copy, but I don't think
      > so. Any lens can look good with web shots.
      > I took nice photos with the Vivitar and they looked
      > fine as I stated earlier. But once I saw the results
      > of a better (equally priced)lens, it was no longer
      > acceptable.
      >
      > I have no idea about the MIR-47K 20mm f2.8, I never
      > used that lens.
      >
      > Sincerely,
      > Ryan
      >
      >
      > >
      > > Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:19:00 -0500
      > > From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
      > > Subject: Re: Vivitar 19mm
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      > >
      > > I think I will have to put one of these on my wish
      > > list. I have always wanted an
      > > ultra-wideange. They are not expensive at all, and
      > > from the photos you guys show
      > >   they seem to be good enough for everyday use.
      >
      >
      >
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