Ok, I seem to have started or contributed to a discussion about the
merits of 28-80 lenses, which is fine.  Ironically, I have used the
only 28-85 I own about twice.  Until last year I was an all-primes
shooter, and still am on the Pentax front. 

I singled out this focal length because I was originally looking for
a lens to go on my mother's ME Super to replace that awful 28-80 (?)
Takumar A lens that somehow came into our possession.  It was big,
clunky, and practically a soft-focus lens.

So, I looked at the long list of comments by PDMLers about lenses in
this focal length and found nothing that people raved about, except
the 28-80/2.8 (?) which was out of my price range and my mother's
shleppage weight.  This was distressing as I didn't want to buy a third 
party lens since they usually focus backwards.
On the other hand, it wasn't too suprising as from what I can see most
cameras are sold with a 28-80 kind of zoom as the standard lens these 
days and to keep the package price down the starter lens is usually 
mediocre at best.  It's a far cry from the days of 50/2.0 lenses that
you could shave with.

I eventually bought the 28-105/3.2-4.5, which I shot with for a week
to make sure it wasn't a lemon.  It's small, light, and capable.
I never actually tested it scientifically to see how it fared compared
to the above-mentioned 28-85 (nikkor, an old AIS design in AF clothing)
or any of the primes in that range, but I had no reservations giving
it to my mother.    

It's worth noting that I didn't even consider anything with a telephoto
end slower than f/4.5, so I might have overlooked some lenses that
were fine optically.  I've got biases there as all my pro glass is f/2.8
or faster and always has been.    

DJE

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