>Ok, so where are they?

>None of the above match my simple requirement. I just need 50-150mm focal
>length (more or less equivalent to 70-210 on film), f/4 and good 
>performance
>on the *ist D (APS or FF).
>A typical advanced amateur outfit:
>60's: 28 (or 35) + 50 + 85 (or 105) + 135 (or 200)
>70's: 28 + 50 + 70-210
>80's: 24 (or 28) + 50 (or 35-70) + 70-210
>90's: 24-90 (or 28-80) + 100-300 (or 80-320)
>*ist D: 16-45 + ???

>Please replace ??? with a matching Pentax lens.

K45-125/4.0, M75-150/4.0 ( neither of which you can buy new of course) 

Actually, when I went digital I replaced my 80-200 with a 70-200, because
I found that I wasn't using the short end nearly as much as the now 
"longer" end anyway.  Since I missed my 85 I tried a 50 and then a 35-70
to fill in the shorter end--neither one is a really good replacement and
I'd LOVE to see a Nikon 58 or 60mm f/1.4 AFS ( or a full frame sensor...)  
On that note, you could try A70-210/4.0 and any 50mm lens.




I sympathise with being used to specific angles of view and not being able
to get them on a DSLR.  I've carried pretty much the same kit 
professionally for 15 years, and it looks like this over time:

1) 2xSuper Program,K24/2.8,M28/2.8,M50/1.4,A*85/1.4,A*200/2.8, outboard 
LX, 135/1.8 and 300s (for sports only)
If I'd have known better back then it would have been: 
A20/2.8,K28/2.0,A50/1.4,K85/1.4,A*200/2.8!

2) 2xNikon F3,24/2.0 or 18/3.5--later 20/2.8,28/2.0,50/1.8,85/2.0,180/2.8,
outboard 135/2.0 and 300s

3) 2xNikon F4,20/2.0,28/1.4,50/1.4,85/1.8,180/2.8--later 80-200/2.8, 
outboard MF lenses as above

Given this, when we went Nikon digital at work I COULD have gone to

14/2.8 (big, expensive, no filter, flares easily) = 21mm effective
20/2.8 (smaller and cheaper than faster 28mm MFs) = 30mm effective
35/2.0 or 35/1.4MF (not as good as 50mm nikkors, or 35mm pentaxes) = 52mm
50/1.4 = 75mm or 60macro (slow, hard to MF) = 90mm 
Nikon's only 135AF is a big, heavy, expensive 2.0, so 
80-200 = 120-300mm effective.

Notice that this does not use many of the better, faster, more expensive 
lenses I already own.  In fact, what I now carry is:

Nikon D1h, 14/3.5 sigma (ugh, but cheaper),17-35/2.8,35-70/3.3-4.5 (for
85mm portraits), 70-200/2.8, with outboard 85/1.4 and 300/2.8. 

This leaves me with no fast glass at all in my bag since the big zooms
leave no room for a 35/1.4 or 50/1.4.  This bothers me.

BTW, when photographing for fun I generally carry a lighter version of 
the same thing.  When my girlfriend and I go on vacation I'll carry one of the
following, depending on how successful her arguments are:

1) LX and ZX-M, FA20/2.8 (yet unbought), K30/2.8, M50/2.0, maybe M85/2.0, 
K135/2.5 or M80-210/4. There really should be another LX in this mix, but 
I absolutely cannot justify it.  That leaves her with Super Programs,
M24-35, A35-70, A50/1.7,M200/4 (she dislikes the long zoom because of 
creep and size), and perhaps the 85/2.0.
I'm hoping to find money for an A135/2.8 at some point as a better option
for her cameras than the K135/2.5.  
 
2) 2xSpotmatic SPII, 20/4.5 (ugh, but no options), 28/3.5, 50/1.4,
105/2.8, 200/4.0 (or 85/1.8 and 150/4.0), M42-PK adapter ring,
handheld light meter.

3) 2xNikkormat EL, 20/3.5, 28/3.5, 50/2.0, 105/2.5, 200/4.0 
(pentax equiv is 2xK2, M20/4.0, K28/3.5, M50/2.0, K105/2.8, M200/4.0, 
which I'd happily carry instead except that I own only two of these
Pentax lenses and distrust my sole K2 intensely)

DJE

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